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Re: [SLE] 9.1 Personal and lack of Gnome
  • From: Brooks <brooksfamily@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 10:12:17 -0500
  • Message-id: <200405271012.17713.brooksfamily@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
On Thursday 27 May 2004 08:09, Silviu Marin-Caea wrote:
> To the original poster: you shouldn't have bought SUSE Personal, without
> looking at the package contents.

I did look. From what I saw, nothing lead me to believe that I would ONLY be
getting KDE. The SuSE website is not clear about that and leaves you to
infer it at best. Why did I not scrutinize the website harder? What reason
would I have to do that? 9.0 (home version) came packaged with more than KDE
while giving a great description of KDE and little more. If 9.0 came that
way, why would I have reason to suspect 9.1 would be any different?? If the
website had been more clear, I would have ordered 9.1 Professional Upgrade.
It's that simple.

Now that I have 9.1 personal, I think SuSE had a better plan with packaging
Gnome with its home version for the extra $10. What you guys who are playing
the role of SuSE apologist fail to understand (and is still somewhat of an
inherent flaw in the linux community) is that newbie's and basic computer
users who switch from Windoze do not want and do not know how to go out and
search for file dependencies that certain programs need to operate. Yes, I
know that most of that stuff can be found out on the web in various places,
but that doesn't make it easy to do. And when a newbie gets frustrated with
it, many of you will quickly blame him for not being knowledgeable or
understanding how the software works. Now, I have a slightly higher than
newbie knowledge on how to get what I want done, but there's no way my wife
could use KDE and do all of the websurfing and play the games she likes if I
didn't find a way to make it work. She wouldn't even know where to begin

My whole point here, is that with the added option of Gnome, you get the
ability to run more programs because more file dependencies (libraries,
source files, etc.) already exist. It's easier to install and run programs
that are available out on the web. Just having KDE means I've got to do some
crazy search for the various file dependencies for a few programs that I want
and it's a pain. Less is not necessarily more, in this case. If SuSE really
wants to make a dent in the Windoze market, limiting the ability of novice
computer users to find and install desired programs is not the way to go,
regardless of how cheap they sell it. People want functionality AND easy

Also, don't take this as me implying that SuSE is somehow a bad distro. That
is NOT what I'm saying. I'm just saying that one gets better functionality
and compatibility with the added option of Gnome loaded with the system. I
really like SuSE a lot. I think they've got a great product, except for 9.1
Personal. I will recommend to anyone I know who is looking at trying linux
to get SuSE 9.1 Professional (Upgrade since it has the ability to do a fresh

As for the earlier suggestion that people who prefer Gnome should look to a
different distribution: with Novell's purchase of SuSE and Ximian and
efforts to integrate, do you think KDE will remain the default desktop?
Doesn't look like it to me...

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