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Re: [SLE] [OT] Athlon Processor
  • From: dieter <dieter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 20:56:42 +0200 (CEST)
  • Message-id: <Pine.BSF.4.31.0105302054500.73552-100000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>

Hey man, put this howto somewhere on the net. :)

From Dave Gregory to 'suse-linux-e@xxxxxxxx' about [SLE] [OT] Athlon Processor:

>
>
> haha.. this is the second email I have recieved so far and I am actually
> able to help!!!
>
> As you can tell, I am new to this mail list, and I am also new to running
> linux... BUT!!
> I am not new to cooling AMD processors.
> I would be willing to bet money that your problem is not the processor and
> it is not the fan either... It is the way they are seated to each other.
> Yes.. that is what I said... two good products that are MADE to fit.. but
> they do not.
>
> Personally.. I used the stock AMD processor for a month before I added my
> ThermalTake because I was afriad that the "better" HSF (heatsink/fan unit)
> would overheat the processor because it would not seat to the HSF correctly.
> I had to Lap the fan and the CPU (just dont tell anyone I lapped my cpu.. I
> dont want my family to know.. heheh)
>
> Here is what you will need to do.
> 1. Firstly... remove the cpu and the HSF.
>
> 2. Do my special trailer trash CPU test by putting the two back together in
> your hand.... now look at the gap between them, pointing the cpu/HSF to a
> light source. What you are doing, is seating the cpu and HSF just like they
> will be when on the mobo. do you see any light gleaming through the cpu and
> the HSF? Now turn the unit 90 degrees and do the same.
>
> The purpose in this, is to find out if the cpu and the HSF are touching 100%
> or not. Typically they are not... (mine was way off... glad I never put
> that HSF on until I lapped it.)
>
> 3. Get 350 grit and 600 grit wet sandpaper and some thermal paste. (can
> be found at Home Depot in the paint section) (the thermal paste will be at
> your local Radio Shack.. cost ya a buck to two)
>
> 4. Find a STRAIGHT surface to put the sandpaper on. Typically, the best
> surface is a glass table, but I used my desk.
>
> 5. Wet sand the HSF.
> You will prolly want to tape the cpu clamps up, so they don't get in the way
> of the sanding. Use the 350 sandpaper, lay it on the table/glass and put a
> bit of water on it. Start sanding the bottom of the HSF in a circular
> motion.
>
> First thing you will notice after sanding for about two minutes, you will
> see EXACTLY where the HSF surface is beveled. keep sanding until you have a
> flat surface on the HSF. then finish off with 600 grit. (same process as
> the 350 grit) This process will probably take about 1/2 hour. When done,
> clean off that bad boy and admire your reflection in it... hehe. (not
> really.. you will get a reflection with 1000 grit but that is just wasted
> time IMHO)
>
> 6. do the Trailer trash test again. remember to turn the hsf/cpu 90
> degrees together and check again.
>
> 7. If the two are not seating correctly still, then you are in for a big
> decision. You can try and add some thermal paste and see if it will
> compensate for the gap between the cpu and HSF,
> OR
> you can sand the cpu like I did. (keep in mind, this is a uncalculated
> risk) I did it with my 850 athalon that cost me 90 bucks... That is a
> somewhat expensive risk, that I was willing to take. If you find that you
> want to sand the cpu, I suggest doing it with 600 grit on the same section
> you sanded the HSF with... (the sandpaper will be alot less gritty there)
> and use lots of water.
> DISCLAIMER: this is not for the faint hearted... This process can render
> your 1.XX gigahurtz cpu into an expensive keychain trinket.
>
> Hopefully you wont sand the cpu and you will do just fine by sanding the HSF
> and you will get the results mine did. (using the default HSF, it was
> barely touchable because it was sooo hot, and once I had the lapped
> ThermalTake I was feeling like the computer was not even on anymore, that is
> how cool it kept the CPU... I was amazed)
>
> Anyhow... good luck and let me know if you need any other information or
> pictures or what not.. davidg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
> Thanks
> dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Curtis Rey [mailto:crrey@xxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2001 11:16 AM
> To: Guy Van Sanden; suse-linux-e@xxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [SLE] [OT] Athlon Processor
>
>
> Steven is right about being very careful about applying the fan to the CPU.
> Make sure that the fan is specifically for the Athlon chip you have. I've
> heard too many stories about either putting on generic cpu fans and/or using
>
> a little too much force when mounting/setting the fan and then cpu into the
> board. Athlons are notorious for cracking the cpu in these instances - they
>
> can be a bit fragile. You can do it as long as your mindful and cover all
> your bases.
>
> HTH. Cheers. Curtis
>
> On Wednesday 30 May 2001 08:14 am, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
> > Hello
> >
> > I know this is off topic, but I just bought a new PC (for Linux), but
> > I suspect that the guy who sold it to me isn't completely honest. So,
> > I need some help, and I've always found friends here.
> > The thing is, my wife has been saving for a long time to give me a
> > decent Linux machine (for my birthday, cause my old one was getting
> > real slow for what I use it for), and I really don't want it to break
> > down in a couple of years.
> >
> > My system is an Athlon 1.333 GHZ with a ThermalTake Volcano cooler.
> > (- Abit motherboard, to be replaced with an Asus which was out of
> > stock - VIA chipset - Award bios)
> > It should cool the CPU down to about 30°-40°C (specially when idle),
> > but my CPU is constantly running at 56°C - 60°C...
> > Even when idle (same on full load). I thought the kapmd-idle thread
> > would keep it cool? But that guy claims that isn't so for an Athlon
> > (only Intel). He also claims that this temperature can do no harm to
> > my CPU, but I doubt that. Searching the internet indicates that
> > temperatures like that shorten the life of an Athlon (most of my
> > systems run up to 10 years, about 4-5 years with me, and than past on
> > to family members), and on many sites, the ThermalTake volcano is
> > rated very good (should cool to 30-35° when idle).
> >
> > He claims I might be able to get my CPU cooler by running (once) a
> > windows utility that can set a register on the chipset to make it run
> > idle when not loaded? Does anyone know if this is true?
> >
> > I also fear that the CPU might be a lower type (1-1.2, overclocked to
> > 1.333), is there any way to check this?
> >
> > I'm sorry about posting this topic, but I really need help.
> >
> > Thanks for any ideas!
> >
> > Guy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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>

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dieter


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