--- John Andersen wrote:

I've found the packman site more reliable for xine, and there is never a need to force. Once you do force, all bets are off. Use setup, and play around

with the video drivers till you find one that works.

I use SDL and xv but your vid cards might work better with others.

Your best bet is uninstall, to go to packman http://packman.links2linux.org/ and get a complete kit from a known good source and re-install.

But look, its hardly fair to come looking for help when you install with --force. You're saying, in effect, "I haven't got time to follow procedures so some body else come and do my homework for me".

I already go to packman site and redownload everything, but I still can't play DVD. still same... I can only hear the sound. here the package I download: kaffeine-mozilla-0.2-0.pm.0.i586.rpm libdvdcss-1.2.8-1.i386.rpm libdvdread-0.9.4-2.pm.1.i586.rpm libxine1-1_rc5-0.pm.0.i686.rpm libxine1-alsa09-1_rc5-0.pm.0.i686.rpm libxine1-arts-1_rc5-0.pm.0.i686.rpm libxine1-directfb-1_rc5-0.pm.0.i686.rpm libxine1-directfb-1_rc5-1.pm.0.i686.rpm libxine1-directfb-1_rc5-2.pm.0.i686.rpm libxine1-dvb-1_rc5-0.pm.0.i686.rpm libxine1-dvd-1_rc5-0.pm.0.i686.rpm libxine1-sdl-1_rc5-0.pm.0.i686.rpm libxine1-w32dll-1_rc5-0.pm.0.i686.rpm w32codec-all-20040706-0.pm.0.i386.rpm xine-lib-0.99.rc3a-106.8.i586.rpm xine-skin-Keramic-4.0-0.pm.3.noarch.rpm xine-skin-lcd-4.0-0.pm.3.noarch.rpm xine-ui-0.99.2-0.pm.0.i686.rpm any package missing? Please HELP __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

** Reply to message from John Andersen on Wed, 28 Jul 2004 01:36:50 -0800 (snips)

run xine-check and make sure everytying says [good ] Then try kaffeine, its an alternate front end for xine that seems to work better than xine-ui in the current version. kaffeine is a very simple front end, but it seems to automate the setup of zine better than fiddeling with all the settings in the zine ui. _____________________________________ John Andersen

John, I have both xine-ui (Version 0.99.2-0.pm.0i586) and kaffeine (Version 0.4.3b-0.pm.0i586) installed. Are you suggesting that I should not have both? FYI, here is the output of xine-check. It says "good," but should I have any concerns? Thanks, Gil gil@phred:~> xine-check Please be patient, this script may take a while to run... [ good ] you're using Linux, doing specific tests [ good ] looks like you have a /proc filesystem mounted. [ good ] You seem to have a reasonable kernel version (2.6.5-7.95-default) [ good ] intel compatible processor, checking MTRR support [ good ] you have MTRR support and there are some ranges set. [ good ] found the player at /usr/bin/xine [ good ] /usr/bin/xine is in your PATH [ good ] found /usr/bin/xine-config in your PATH [ good ] plugin directory /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.0.0 exists. [ good ] found unknown plugin: xineplug_flac.so [ good ] found input plugins [ good ] found demux plugins [ good ] found decoder plugins [ good ] found video_out plugins [ good ] found audio_out plugins [ good ] skin directory /usr/share/xine/skins exists. [ good ] found logo in /usr/share/xine/skins [ good ] I even found some skins. [ good ] /dev/cdrom points to /dev/hdc [ good ] /dev/dvd points to /dev/hdc [ good ] DMA is enabled for your DVD drive [ good ] found xvinfo: X-Video Extension version 2.2 [ good ] your Xv extension supports YV12 overlays (improves MPEG performance) [ good ] your Xv extension supports YUY2 overlays [ good ] Xv ports: YUY2 YV12 I420 UYVY gil@phred:~>

** Reply to message from John on Wed, 28 Jul 2004 12:08:34 -0500

On Wednesday 28 July 2004 06:53, Gil Weber wrote:

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John Andersen

John, I have both xine-ui (Version 0.99.2-0.pm.0i586) and kaffeine (Version 0.4.3b-0.pm.0i586) installed. Are you suggesting that I should not have both?

Having both is fine, as long as each of them works. It's just that Kaffeine (to me) seems to be a nicer front-end, compared to the Xine-ui front-end, but I still have both anyway, because I think that the xine build requires it no matter what.

John B

Thanks for feedback. :o) Gil

On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 05:38, John Andersen wrote:

Having both is not unusual - comes that way on SuSE 9.1, but SuSE installs a crippled xine.

How so? I'd like to know to see if it's worth replacing. Cheers -- Adam Cooper

On Thursday 29 July 2004 12:00 am, Gerhard den Hollander wrote:

* Adam Cooper (Thu, Jul 29, 2004 at 08:53:02AM +0100)

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On Thu, 2004-07-29 at 05:38, John Andersen wrote:

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Having both is not unusual - comes that way on SuSE 9.1, but SuSE installs a crippled xine.

How so? I'd like to know to see if it's worth replacing.

Legal reasons. e.g. DVD playback requires the DeCCS stuff, which is illegal under the DMCA in the US. (IIRC)

Ahem... I'd like you guys to continue this thread without my name in the subject. You have no idea how many filter rules you are tripping in my machine. ;-) But since the US case was based on a Norway case (i think) It may be legal now in the US since the Norway case was dismissed. It hasn't been back to court since the dismissal, and the motion picture industry has started to realize its a fools errand to pursue this just because its Linux and not Windows. They risk getting tossed out of court and losing more than its worth if they get in front of a somewhat smarter judge who decides that if you can play it on one computer you should be able to play it on ANY computer. -- _____________________________________ John Andersen

On Thursday 29 July 2004 08:32, Steve Kratz wrote:

Ok, where is a good place to pull the "good" xine RPMs from? I finally started converting my home system to SuSE 9.1 last night, and want to get full multimedia support going.

I noticed on Packman's site there's like 50 xine options... Also, I've noticed a fair number of sites that mention the DeCSS software don't have it available for download.

(I do have apt installed -- does apt install xinelibs get the right one?)

Those are the things Xine will need to run well, but believe me, they're good for many other things too once you learn how to use them. It's a bear to download them all with just dialup, but if I can do it, anyone can, heh. Just make sure you download the necessary things *for your version number* (I always get the src.rpm's of everything and rebuild, so I know it's made for anything weird I may have done on my system). John B

** Reply to message from John Andersen on Wed, 28 Jul 2004 20:38:56 -0800

On Wednesday 28 July 2004 03:53 am, Gil Weber wrote:

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John, I have both xine-ui (Version 0.99.2-0.pm.0i586) and kaffeine (Version 0.4.3b-0.pm.0i586) installed. Are you suggesting that I should not have both?

Kaffeine requires xine. kaffeine is just a user interface for xine. Xine is a command line utility that usually requires a UI of some sort (such as xine-ui). Having both is not unusual - comes that way on SuSE 9.1, but SuSE installs a crippled xine.

-- _____________________________________ John Andersen

OK, thanks for explanation. Gil

--- Claus Wilke wrote:

A similar error is described for the ogle DVD player. From the faq (http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/dvd/faq.shtml):

20. I only get a blue window, can't see any video but I do hear the sound. Or I have a fast computer but it very slow, the title doesn't contain "Xv".

Yes, this is my problem. Thank you. I'm using intel 845G chipset, and to fix it, I must download plenty rpm, that I'm afraid I can break other things. So,,,, I'm considering to buy a new video card instead. Thanks. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail

I've seen this same blue screen in Xine on some machines and not on others. Interestingly enough, it is only a display problem, because if you take a snapshot while the movie is running you will get a good image.

kaffeine is a different front end for xine, and it ALWAYS works, even thought it is running the same xine code, on the same chipset.

The machines that fail for me with xine (but work with kaffeine) are intel 815 machines. I've had xine running on this machine prior.

thanks for the info. mine also working when I'm using SuSE 8.2. ;)) my kafein is broken due to forcing xine install. when I got the 'blue screen' I thought something wrong with the xine, and I force install. (rpm --install --force). With your information, I will try to uninstall all the xine/kafein things first, then re-install the original xine/kafein, then do the rpm -Uhv things. Thanks again for the help. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail