"secure" deletes posible w/o removeing everything?
** Here be Dragons friend , trod lightly ,lest you find yourself in a flame , w/ no breath mints handy. Setting aside the fact that just to delete a files ( cc numbers , online banking records or client data ) doesn't do anything to seriously remove these items... And there is good general reasons to "cleanup" a hard drive ; tho one might not want to reinstall everything in order to do a minor *spring* ( or *fall* , even) clean .. I've located DBAN ... but that seems a bit of overkill ...( I've not finished reading all the docs , but it seems to want an all or nothing approuch ) What I require , which might not be as secure a destruction of info, I Do understand, is a program where I can remove whole FILES w/o the necessity of destroying everything.. OS/2 used to have a couple of these sorts of programs .. there are even a couple for MS products. Where after the file is "deleted" the area it takes up is overwritten a number of times w/ 1s and 0s up to a level that teh owner is "comfortable" w/ .. DBAN should make giving a computer away ( w/ a bright shiny new Suse on it <G>) a less daunting prospect than it is currently.. since the only way to be certain secure information can not be recovered is to actually destroy the drive. One should be able to feel that the average scripty won't be able to recover the info ( let if require govt * forensic* tools that is okay... BTW for those that are curious Google only turned up DBAN , for linux/uninx ... plonk the proggy onto a floppy , or cd , and boot the box w/ that ... But there should be soemthing for general housekeeping as well -- j afterthought There are more planes in the ocean than ships in the sky.
On Monday 04 November 2002 1:00 pm, jfweber@eternal.net wrote:
What I require , which might not be as secure a destruction of info, I Do understand, is a program where I can remove whole FILES w/o the necessity of destroying everything.. OS/2 used to have a couple of these sorts of programs .. there are even a couple for MS products. Where after the file is "deleted" the area it takes up is overwritten a number of times w/ 1s and 0s up to a level that teh owner is "comfortable" w/ ..
I've never used it, but I think that 'fwipe' is what you're looking for. I don't know if it's included on SuSE or not; at least, it's not on my install and I don't have my CDs here with me. http://freshmeat.net/projects/fwipe/ -Nick
On Mon, 4 Nov 2002 13:27:18 -0600
Nick LeRoy
On Monday 04 November 2002 1:00 pm, jfweber@eternal.net wrote:
What I require , which might not be as secure a destruction of info, I Do understand, is a program where I can remove whole FILES w/o the necessity of destroying everything.. OS/2 used to have a couple of these sorts of programs .. there are even a couple for MS products. Where after the file is "deleted" the area it takes up is overwritten a number of times w/ 1s and 0s up to a level that teh owner is "comfortable" w/ ..
I've never used it, but I think that 'fwipe' is what you're looking for. I don't know if it's included on SuSE or not; at least, it's not on my install and I don't have my CDs here with me.
wipe is on the suse cd's, it's about the same thing as fwipe. -- use Perl; #powerful programmable prestidigitation
On Mon, Nov 04, 2002 at 01:27:18PM -0600, Nick LeRoy wrote:
On Monday 04 November 2002 1:00 pm, jfweber@eternal.net wrote:
What I require , which might not be as secure a destruction of info, I Do understand, is a program where I can remove whole FILES w/o the necessity of destroying everything.. OS/2 used to have a couple of these sorts of programs .. there are even a couple for MS products. Where after the file is "deleted" the area it takes up is overwritten a number of times w/ 1s and 0s up to a level that teh owner is "comfortable" w/ ..
I've never used it, but I think that 'fwipe' is what you're looking for. I don't know if it's included on SuSE or not; at least, it's not on my install and I don't have my CDs here with me.
shred ? it's in fileutils HTH Jon Clausen
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On Monday 04 November 2002 5:24 pm, jfweber@eternal.net wrote:
**shred ?
i did a man shred it doesnt work with jounaling file systems :( -- Bob Rea mailto:gapetard@stsams.org http://www.petard.us Freedom is only privilege extended unless enjoyed by one and all --Billy Bragg
* Bob Rea (gapetard@stsams.org) [021104 15:14]:
it doesnt work with jounaling file systems :(
I think both shread and wipe work but they won't clean the data left in the journal (filenames, etc.). If you're are really that paranoid you are probably better off using an encrypted filesystem. -- -ckm
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