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I have lots of cool tools I use in NT that just aren't available to me in Unix/Linux.

Could you name just one or two? Are these MS-provided tools, or something else?

BackOrifice and Netbus? -- Yatsen Ng yatsen.ng@brunel.nl Den Haag, The Netherlands It said "Needs Windows 95 or better". So I installed Linux... -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Chris Reeves wrote:

Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:43:31 +0000 From: Chris Reeves To: yatsen.ng@brunel.nl, SuSE Mailing List Subject: Re: [SLE] a whine about wine & Mozilla

Yatsen Ng wrote:

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I have lots of cool tools I use in NT that just aren't available to me in Unix/Linux.

Could you name just one or two? Are these MS-provided tools, or something else?

BackOrifice and Netbus?

Hmmm. I think there is a BO client for Linux... not that I use it.

I presume the Back Orifice referred to here is a sarcastic reference to Back Office, not the cracking trojan. Last I looked, the BO trojan was impossible on any *nix. I don't know about Back Office. -- Ed Craig epcraig@efn.org Taxi Linux FreeBSD Think this through with me, let me know your mind... Hunter/Garcia -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

Edward Craig wrote:

On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Chris Reeves wrote:

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I have lots of cool tools I use in NT that just aren't available to me in Unix/Linux.

Could you name just one or two? Are these MS-provided tools, or something else?

BackOrifice and Netbus?

Hmmm. I think there is a BO client for Linux... not that I use it.

I presume the Back Orifice referred to here is a sarcastic reference to Back Office, not the cracking trojan. Last I looked, the BO trojan was impossible on any *nix. I don't know about Back Office.

The *server* is supposedly impossible on *nix, although I believe there are people working on it... However there is definitely a *nix *client* available, i.e. you can control Win computers from Linux. Hope that's cleared up ;-) Chris -- __ _ -o)/ / (_)__ __ ____ __ Chris Reeves /\\ /__/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / ICQ# 22219005 _\_v __/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

Edward Craig wrote:

On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Chris Reeves wrote:

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Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 12:43:31 +0000 From: Chris Reeves To: yatsen.ng@brunel.nl, SuSE Mailing List Subject: Re: [SLE] a whine about wine & Mozilla

Yatsen Ng wrote:

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I have lots of cool tools I use in NT that just aren't available to me in Unix/Linux.

Could you name just one or two? Are these MS-provided tools, or something else?

BackOrifice and Netbus?

Hmmm. I think there is a BO client for Linux... not that I use it.

I presume the Back Orifice referred to here is a sarcastic reference to Back Office, not the cracking trojan. Last I looked, the BO trojan was impossible on any *nix. I don't know about Back Office.

I read an article that said Back Orifice 2000 (BO2K) source code looked just like VNC with the password code removed. If this is true, then BO2K would be possible, but only if installed by an inept sysadmin - you know, those guys that use their root account for routine e-mail. I think the probability of success of a BO2K server running under Unix/Linux is small (there is a large difference between Unix SysAdmins and NT admins), so the cDc hasn't wasted their time on it. Their time is better spent violating Windows users. -- George Toft http://www.georgetoft.com Certified NACSE Senior Network Specialist, Master of Science Information Systems Linux/Unix System Administrator Web Master Network Administrator --> Looking for the right job in Ontario, California <-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

Mike, Thanks for the back up. The reason I got on that rant was because I was trying to view a Rational Rose tutorial CD. I had to boot into NT to get the *.exe to run. It ran fine on my system at work, unfortunately it crashes on my NT here at home. I would rather have it run on my Linux boot. As for tools I like: http://www.textpad.com/ http://www.ultraedit.com/ Many gadgets that come with hardware such as sound cards, and digital cameras. The list is not extensive, but it's long enough to frustrate me. I'm sure there are other packages that belong on this list, my first cup of coffee hasn't kicked in yet, so I'm drawing a blank. Some people will tell me there are OSS tools that do the same things. Indeed there are, but they never seem to give me exactly what I'm looking for. For example, xemacs will do virtually anything, but it is in a paradigm of its own. The learning curve is steeper than most programming languages, and even when you learn what it can do, it doesn't support the same key strokes and etc. that I am used to. kwrite is getting there, but it is still a bit weak. Another problem is that sometimes I'm forced to use Win32 products because of my job. I would really like to be able to just stick in a CD and have at it. Steve Mike Kenzie wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: George Toft To: suse-linux-e Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 3:12 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] a whine about wine & Mozilla

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Aloha Steven,

I don't mean to detract from your excellent plea . . .

Steven T. Hatton wrote:

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I have lots of cool tools I use in NT that just aren't available to me in Unix/Linux.

Could you name just one or two? Are these MS-provided tools, or something else? These are the programs on my system that I haven't found replacements for yet

Realia COBOL Fujitsu COBOL Palm Desktop Lego Mindstorms Swift FORTH

Myst/Riven

Canadian Securities self-study Software ForeFront CBT courses Multimedia Apps - Corel Draw Compton's, Grolliers or Encarta encyclopedia

Reading Rabbit... children's educational software I install these for a local school.

I'd like to start developing these CBT's or educational software but coming from a mainframe COBOL shop I'm not even sure where to start.

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Steven T. Hatton wrote:

Mike,

Thanks for the back up. The reason I got on that rant was because I was trying to view a Rational Rose tutorial CD. I had to boot into NT to get the *.exe to run. It ran fine on my system at work, unfortunately it crashes on my NT here at home. I would rather have it run on my Linux boot. As for tools I like:

http://www.textpad.com/ http://www.ultraedit.com/ Many gadgets that come with hardware such as sound cards, and digital cameras.

The list is not extensive, but it's long enough to frustrate me. I'm sure there are other packages that belong on this list, my first cup of coffee hasn't kicked in yet, so I'm drawing a blank. Some people will tell me there are OSS tools that do the same things. Indeed there are, but they never seem to give me exactly what I'm looking for. For example, xemacs will do virtually anything, but it is in a paradigm of its own. The learning curve is steeper than most programming languages, and even when you learn what it can do, it doesn't support the same key strokes and etc. that I am used to. kwrite is getting there, but it is still a bit weak.

Another problem is that sometimes I'm forced to use Win32 products because of my job. I would really like to be able to just stick in a CD and have at it.

Steve

Mike Kenzie wrote:

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----- Original Message ----- From: George Toft To: suse-linux-e Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 3:12 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] a whine about wine & Mozilla

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Aloha Steven,

I don't mean to detract from your excellent plea . . .

Steven T. Hatton wrote:

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[snip]

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I have lots of cool tools I use in NT that just aren't available to me in Unix/Linux.

Could you name just one or two? Are these MS-provided tools, or something else? These are the programs on my system that I haven't found replacements for yet

Realia COBOL Fujitsu COBOL Palm Desktop Lego Mindstorms Swift FORTH

Myst/Riven

Canadian Securities self-study Software ForeFront CBT courses Multimedia Apps - Corel Draw Compton's, Grolliers or Encarta encyclopedia

Reading Rabbit... children's educational software I install these for a local school.

I'd like to start developing these CBT's or educational software but coming from a mainframe COBOL shop I'm not even sure where to start.

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My mistake. I thought "tools" as in system/network admin tools, vice applications and games. Sorry for the confusion. -- George Toft http://www.georgetoft.com Certified NACSE Senior Network Specialist, Master of Science Information Systems Linux/Unix System Administrator Web Master Network Administrator --> Looking for the right job in Ontario, California <-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/

Mike Kenzie wrote:

----- Original Message ----- From: George Toft To: suse-linux-e Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2000 3:12 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] a whine about wine & Mozilla

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Aloha Steven,

I don't mean to detract from your excellent plea . . .

Steven T. Hatton wrote:

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[snip]

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I have lots of cool tools I use in NT that just aren't available to me in Unix/Linux.

Could you name just one or two? Are these MS-provided tools, or something else? These are the programs on my system that I haven't found replacements for yet

Realia COBOL Fujitsu COBOL Palm Desktop

Try J-Pilot. It does everything that the 3Com software does, except e-mail. Also, J-Pilot does not have the 4000 character limit on memo records, so you can pack more info into a memo record. Since the Palm tries to enforce this limit, you can't add to a stuffed record, but you can still view it and delete characters. The March issue of Hawaiian HardDrive should have an article on how to get the Palm Pilot to work under Linux. It's also in the Palm Pilot how-to. [snip] -- George Toft http://www.georgetoft.com Certified NACSE Senior Network Specialist, Master of Science Information Systems Linux/Unix System Administrator Web Master Network Administrator --> Looking for the right job in Ontario, California <-- __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe send e-mail to suse-linux-e-unsubscribe@suse.com For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help@suse.com Also check the FAQ at http://www.suse.com/Support/Doku/FAQ/