On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, houghi wrote:
On Tue, Feb 21, 2006 at 05:26:30AM -0700, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
On Tue, 21 Feb 2006, Robert Schiele wrote:
On Mon, Feb 20, 2006 at 05:20:16PM -0700, Boyd Lynn Gerber wrote:
I have been waiting for this discussion on the list as I feel there is a real problem with mirrors. Especially US mirrors. I have started using the EU mirrors as they are the only real reliable mirrors.
Well, if you have a point to make then _make_ it. You should not wait until someone provides you with the answer to life, the universe, and everything.
I find your attiude and tone offensive and demeaning. Your action item item was to disuss/document the current situation and verify whether others are seeing the problem.
I don't think it was offencsive. I think he is right. If you have an issue, please come forward. If everybody waits for others to come forward, then we are going nowhere.¹
If you look you will see that I did start discussing it. I know it was a topic on the agenda. I could not make the IRC meeting. I had tried to find the IRC log to see what was discussed. I then started a thread on the problem of Non EU mirrors. Then I read the log and back-off waiting for the thread.
Mmm. I must have missed that meeting, because the one that I attended clearly spoke about the problems on non-europe mirrors. Both in quality and quatity.
That is what I was talking about. US mirror are few and bad. Using EU mirrors in the US is the only reliable way to address problems. All I heard prior to the threads I started with the current one excluded was that Novell/SUSE had mirrors and there were no problems. But the reality was that they had them, but they do not function/work well.
¹Sometimes on Usenet I see people complaining about something in SUSE. When I ask them to file a bugreport, then they say that SUSE must just repair it. When I ask them how SUSE know what to repair if they do not know what is broken is still waiting for an answer.
You can replace Usenet by forum/phonecall/pub visit/random contact.
Agreed. That is why this thread is now happening. I have been chidded a
lot for over stepping bounds to address problems. Even though I have been
using SUSE Linux since the first release, and have had many battles. It
became apparent to me that I need to listen more and not be as out spoken
as I had been in the past. I guess the pendule has now swung to far in
the opposite direction. Finding a good balance is hard.
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Boyd Gerber