houghi wrote:
Not wanting to highjack a thread, I start a new one. People having issues with the wording of my standard reply, please tell me *here* what it should be. As I believe this is (unfortunatly) on-topic here, I won't reply to any personal mails concerning this subject.
What else can we do then point out each time we see a technical discussion starting? My idea is to kill this list, as it already is lost and make a new one: opensuse-community.
Anybody other (better) ideas?
houghi
How to kill the list? Not participating? Someone will post and someone will answer, so list will not die unless decision makers remove it. IMHO, in the beginning this list was intended for community related communication, but presence of technical questions shows that many people think that this is the right place. Why it works this way? By simple logic applied in other places, SUSE Linux will be discussed on suselinux mailing list, opensuse on opensuse mailing list. Everyone takes that openSUSE is some different kind of SUSE linux, like Fedora Core is different kind of Redhat. What I found on opensuse.org I have to talk about in opensuse (mailing list, forum, news), not suse mailing list. Tomato forum about tomatoes, potato about potatoes. We all use that naming schema everywhere we go, not only in the Internet, so I can't blame people that come here with all kind of questions. Although I support you in your efforts to keep things organized, something that is making perpetual confusion, as it contradicts to common sense, should be adjusted to what most expects to be. Leave this list to all opensuse questions, and make opensuse-chat for community related. I bet that no one will ever try to ask how to solve technical problem in chat forum, nor on chat list. The name "community" is still to much like a magnet for technical questions, because where I would go to ask if I have problem with Linux that I obtained on opensuse.org, of course to guys that know a lot about. Where I would look for those guys, in their community. The name "chat" is not restrictive and allows all kinds of non-technical discussions. If someone ask question that is not commonly understood under chat, like how to solve the problem, anyone can send "offender" to proper list in fast, dry, non-offending way like: "The better place to ask about problems with SUSE Linux downloaded from opensuse.org would be opensuse mailing list. How to subscribe to it is explained on http://en.opensuse.org/Communicate. Have a fun." No one will complain if people in chat forum/list don't feel ready to answer technical stuff, even if the name tells that the guy is expert. The distinction between openSUSE community (not SUSE community) and SUSE Linux (not openSUSE Linux) is unusual and makes confusion from day one. This list is loaded with threads that explain the difference, and despite all efforts people are still using reasoning that is more common in the net. BTW, good example how proper naming can help, there is no many that go to opensuse-wiki to ask for technicalities. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-help@opensuse.org