Rodney Baker wrote:
Hi all. Has anyone else played around with some of the new stuff in the latest KDE4 update? I haven't found it all yet, but the new desktop background options are interesting (including one that uses Kmarble and looks like the old xearth/xplanet on steroids...).
I haven't been able to get the weather background to work on my system - perhaps that isn't quite there yet. I'm undecided on the new desktop pager for virtual desktops as yet...
Unfortunately with my old NVidia GeForce FX 5500 performance with compositing seems to have gone backwards but that may be due to debug code etc. Its easy to switch off when I need to (e.g. for watching videos).
It may not be everyone's cup of tea but the devs are making progress and it is starting to look pretty good from where I sit.
Note - this is not an invitation to start another KDE4 vs KDE3 flame war; some good honest discussion/tips re the new features (by those actually using them) would be welcome though...
Cheers,
Fair enough re: flame wars. But I couldn't help but notice that the things you were impressed with are definitely of the "eye candy" nature, and the problems are all in the area of user functionality. Not enough to make me want to jump back to KDE (yet). I *want* to believe, but still, almost a year after it was rolled out in 11.1, KDE4 continues to struggle with base functionality, while continuing to improve its appearance. But apparently this is the "great divide" that separates the KDE4 believers from the KDE4 skeptics. When people start raving about how almost all their base functionality works well, and some of it works better because of KDE4, I will invest the time and effort to try it again. (I had originally installed 11.1 with KDE4). If KDE3 were not being so visibly "deprecated", I would have been content to stay there until I was convinced KDE4 was ready for prime time for me. Instead, after several attempts to get KDE4 to do things they way I had liked doing them in KDE3, I abandoned ship and switched to the "brand X" desktop. And I will probably stay there for 11.2, unless and until migration to KDE4 enables me to easily configure it to "look and feel" like what I am accustomed to, and want to continue to do until I decide I want to explore a supposed better way of using my desktop. And if I have to learn to think and act in a totally new paradigm right out of the box for KDE4, I probably won't go back at all, as what I have does just about everything I can imagine wanting to do on my (very busy) desktop. So please, by all means, someone, any one, please explain to me in terms I can understand, what KDE4 will do for me that makes my day on Linux go better. And that does not include better HW utilization, beefed up graphic effects, or a new way to organize my view of things that I must use, and that is counter-intuitive to everything I have been doing across several environments, going all the way back to Motif on NCD terminals, through OS/2, and on into Linux desktop environments. "When and if" I hear about how average (more or less power) users' experiences have improved a great deal as a result of using KDE4, then I will consider investing the time and effort to see if its new features can actually help me. And until that time, I suspect that there will be a lot of resistance to making the shift, at least as much resistance as there is acceptance by those who want to have the newest first. Newer and cooler isn't automatically better, even if it is better for some subset of those who try it. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org