On Fri, Feb 09, John Smiley wrote:
It isn't just RH that chooses this method. Every linux site that I've seen, other than SuSE, uses the same standard.
Which standard ? There is no standard. Look for example for glibc. Tell me 2 distributions (but not Red Hat based ones), that uses the same names for all glibc (with subpackages) RPMs. There are no 2 distributions. I know it, because I looked at it for some days. The most have a glibc main RPM, but not all. Some uses only libc or libc6. But then look at the subpackages for development, profiling and locale. Nothing common any longer. Or look at Debian. They have often names which are more similar to SuSE then to Red Hat. So, what is the standard ? Thorsten
John
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Marlin"
To: "John Smiley" Cc: "Matthew" ; Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE Newbie: Why does SuSE use custom RPMs? Matt,
I was using Red Hat. I got turned off by the problems they introduced in 7.0 with their introduction of the not-yet-ready-for-prime-time glibc 2.2 package. I switched to SuSE when I saw how well the supported Oracle and I really like the docs supplied in the distro. Much better than RH. My
John Smiley writes: main
gripe is SuSE's seemingly non-standard way of packaging RPMs.
You mean there's a standard, or the way Redhat chooses to do it. The RPM package manager was never meant to be distribution generic.
John
----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew"
To: "John Smiley" Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE Newbie: Why does SuSE use custom RPMs? Hello John,
2.4 is different from 2.2 with a captial D for different :-),
that out...
Not sure what other extras will be needed....Anyone from SuSE know
answer to this one?
You mentioned that you are new to SuSE? What were you using before, if I may ask?
Matt
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, John Smiley wrote:
Matt,
I was hesitant about forcing the modutils install. I didn't know if it would break some of the "added extras" that SuSE provides. What are some of these extras? Would the inclusion of the raw I/O patch, lvm, and reiserfs in the SuSE 7.0 kernel be good examples? I can obtain all of these from their respective distribution sites. What other extras should I be aware of?
Thanks,
John
----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew"
To: "John Smiley" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE Newbie: Why does SuSE use custom RPMs? Hi John,
You may need to force the installation of Modutils, I got mine here: ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/modutils/v2.4/
With the SuSE Kernels you get added extras that few others offer. And for otehr apps the ones you get with SuSE should have gone through a QA process too.
Matt
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, John Smiley wrote:
> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Smiley > To: suse-linux-e@suse.com > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:10 PM > Subject: SuSE Newbie: Why does SuSE use custom RPMs? > > > I am new to SuSE linux and have been having a hard time getting used to the use of "SuSE RPMs" as opposed to the usual RPMs I see posted everywhere on the web. For example, it's easy to find 'modutils-x.x.x.rpm' to update the latest version of modutils on most linux distributions, but SuSE uses 'modules.rpm'. And if I try to instal the modutils rpm from say, SourceForge, I get a message saying that it conflicts with files in SuSE's 'modules' package. > > Another example: SuSE uses lx-suse.rpm and lx-hack.rpm for
found the the
> > This is making it extremely hard for me to experiment. I would
> > Please help. I'm very impressed by the amount of support SuSE
"official" and "non-supported" versions of the kernel. Everyone else seems to simply use linux-2.x.x. It's especially hard to determine the version number of a SuSE RPM without querying it from rpm. The standard I see everywhere else is to include the version number in the rpm file name. like to try the new 2.4.x kernel, and I've seen the posts about downloading an rpm from ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/next/ , but this is hardly main stream! I don't want to depend on someone else to put together a package that is compatible with SuSE. I want to download the kernel from ftp.kernel.org, read the Changes docs, download the appropriate versions of the required packages and compile my kernel. provides, especially where Oracle is concerned.
> > Regards, > > John R. Smiley >
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