John Smiley writes:
It isn't just RH that chooses this method. Every linux site that I've seen, other than SuSE, uses the same standard.
Debian, Slackware, are very big linux distributions that do not even use RPM. I cannot eloborate any further, because the only distributions I have ever used are Slackware, Redhat, and SuSE.
Mandrake is a Redhat descendant, and you cannot reliably mix and match RPM's on these linuxes either. If you think you can you are mistaken. If I need an app that there is no RPM for or, if the RPM is out of date, I make my own.
John
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Marlin"
To: "John Smiley" Cc: "Matthew" ; Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 3:38 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE Newbie: Why does SuSE use custom RPMs? John Smiley writes:
Matt,
I was using Red Hat. I got turned off by the problems they
introduced
7.0 with their introduction of the not-yet-ready-for-prime-time glibc 2.2 package. I switched to SuSE when I saw how well the supported Oracle and I really like the docs supplied in the distro. Much better than RH. My
gripe is SuSE's seemingly non-standard way of packaging RPMs.
You mean there's a standard, or the way Redhat chooses to do it. The RPM package manager was never meant to be distribution generic.
John
----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew"
To: "John Smiley" Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE Newbie: Why does SuSE use custom RPMs? Hello John,
2.4 is different from 2.2 with a captial D for different
:-), found
that out...
Not sure what other extras will be needed....Anyone from SuSE know
in main the
answer to this one?
You mentioned that you are new to SuSE? What were you using before, if I may ask?
Matt
On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, John Smiley wrote:
Matt,
I was hesitant about forcing the modutils install. I didn't know if it would break some of the "added extras" that SuSE provides. What are some of these extras? Would the inclusion of the raw I/O patch, lvm, and reiserfs in the SuSE 7.0 kernel be good examples? I can obtain all of
from
their respective distribution sites. What other extras should I be aware of?
Thanks,
John
----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew"
To: "John Smiley" Cc: Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [SLE] SuSE Newbie: Why does SuSE use custom RPMs? > Hi John, > > You may need to force the installation of Modutils, I got mine here: > ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/modutils/v2.4/ > > With the SuSE Kernels you get added extras that few others offer. And for > otehr apps the ones you get with SuSE should have gone
QA
> process too. > > Matt > > On Fri, 9 Feb 2001, John Smiley wrote: > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: John Smiley > > To: suse-linux-e@suse.com > > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 12:10 PM > > Subject: SuSE Newbie: Why does SuSE use custom RPMs? > > > > > > I am new to SuSE linux and have been having a hard time getting used to the use of "SuSE RPMs" as opposed to the usual RPMs I see
everywhere on the web. For example, it's easy to find 'modutils-x.x.x.rpm' to update the latest version of modutils on most linux distributions, but SuSE uses 'modules.rpm'. And if I try to instal the modutils rpm from say, SourceForge, I get a message saying that it conflicts with files in SuSE's 'modules' package. > > > > Another example: SuSE uses lx-suse.rpm and lx-hack.rpm for the "official" and "non-supported" versions of the kernel. Everyone else seems to simply use linux-2.x.x. It's especially hard to determine
Bill Gates & Co. must laugh their collective a**es off whenever someone
suggests that Linux might one day take over the desktop. With every Linux
distro going its own way and with the continued battle-of-the-GUIs between
GNOME and KDE, Microsoft will never have anything to worry about.
On the other hand, HP, IBM, Sun, and Compaq (sorry to see you go DEC), had
better watch their backs. The 2.4 kernel is gaining ground in their
territory.
John R. Smiley
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jesse Marlin"
number of a SuSE RPM without querying it from rpm. The standard I see everywhere else is to include the version number in the rpm file name. > > > > This is making it extremely hard for me to experiment. I would
version like
to try the new 2.4.x kernel, and I've seen the posts about downloading an rpm from ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mantel/next/ , but this is hardly main stream! I don't want to depend on someone else to put together a package that is compatible with SuSE. I want to download the kernel from ftp.kernel.org, read the Changes docs, download the appropriate versions of the required packages and compile my kernel. > > > > Please help. I'm very impressed by the amount of support SuSE provides, especially where Oracle is concerned. > > > > Regards, > > > > John R. Smiley > > > >
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