Well, I think I'm able to contribute to the discussion about the Netscape/Mozilla behavior connecting to the web. In Windoze, I'm used to an obedient Netscape, that connects automatically when I ask it to so by accepting a URL, by clicking the Send tab or the Get Msg tab. That's great. In Linux things are disgraceful in this respect. If you just set up a normal dial up configuration, Netscape seems to work normally, but there is a difference between being logged in as root compared to as a user. As root you can easily browse whatever belongs to localhost. As a user Netscape starts (tries to) a dial up connection. If you disconnect e.g. the ISDN cable, it is revealed what is going on: Cannot connect to internic.net, home.netscape.com, home6.netscape.com. I did a look up using the hex editor in the Netscape binary, and I actually found these URLs. Then I replaced these URLs with localhost. It made, however, no difference. Now I had three error messages regarding localhost which by deafult is supposed be resolved. Obviously, Netscape wants to do a DNS look up or what .... What the h... is this business about. I thought Netscape was a proggie made by grown ups for grown ups. I certainly don't need any DNS lookup until I actually need it. It even gets worse setting up your email account. Then you can't even start Messenger before a dial up connection has been established. In Windoze, I have for years had a constant routine of carefully studying certain email long after downloading it. It has always been absolutely peacefully, as I could just open Messenger to review these messages. If I make My Linux machine my default machine ... well do I have to say more. What dumb insolence this is, how stupid programming can you encounter or is such stupid features made at the request of 'external partners'? If Netscape had been a Seattle proggie, I would understand. Anyway, I hope it's not. I recognize this as good old System V programming: Remember to initialize buffers, remember to ensure that all available info is available for the session and so on. If anyone on this list is going to attend the moz meeting, then ask these people when they are going to stop this kinder garden game. In deep disgust, Niels "Steven T. Hatton" wrote:
juergen.braukmann@ruhr-west.de wrote:
Steve please,
no HTML and no links that activly connect to a site that you don't intend to. Think of all the poor souls that use outhouse and might catch a viruus that way.
Juergen
Jürgen,
So sorry. I change configuration, install new versions, and move between systems so often, I lose track of how things are configured. I'm hoping that when Moz finally matures I will be able to select address specific configurations. I like html, xhtml, js, and the like. In a couple of years we should have a fairly robust PKI in place which will enable the communication of trusted mobile code. That'll be cool. I also understand some folks don't like these formats. I try to respect that.
What do you mean by "links to actively connect to a site?" I didn't intend to select "send page." I perfer, "send link." I'll take a look in the archive to see how bad I really was. There is a chance I did select the correct option, but the selection mapping was wrong. I've been using daily builds of Moz lately.
I would say the folks using OSs that automatically execute code that can make direct system calls get what they deserve, but then I would be talking abut my mother, and that wouldn't be cool. Thanks for pointing out my sins. I would never have known if you hadn't let me know.
BTW, do you know an easy way to get umlauts when you're using a typical American configuraton? I often go find a page written in German and copy and paste.
Steve
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