I don't know, I like the Wayland I dea, it is the only thing I n Linux today that I like. I've given up on Linux for the most part already but..... Well actually my perception is that things are going to go or to keep going down the drain. But the same is true for Windows as well, you know. I really thought this computer world needed some new input and I was going to give it, but I failed (in my personal life). So now I have to watch as everything falls to pieces. Not very fun I must say. Windows is not actually improving. Windows 8 was a disaster from pretty much everyone's perspective, the only positive thing you could say about it is that it gave other developers a chance. Windows 10 fixed some of that and is well designed from a user design perspective as it regards timing and the flow of applications and their startup. For instance, this 'tacile feedback' thing, many Windows apps load in various stages and give visual feedback with every stage. So they have the splash screen thing but now in an advanced mode ;-). These apps load like an HTML page does: first comes the outline, and it is pretty fast in responding. Then it starts to load the components as you watch, all very rapidly, and even though the complete startup might take 10 seconds, you are never feeling as if you have to wait. That's what they do right in Windows 10. But the Tile interface is a mess (have you tried it on a Windows phone? It is really horrid from the perspective of someone who actually wants to use his phone). Everyone thinks it is ugly basically. And the Windows 10 user interface can corrupt very easily. The tile system can get corrupted, user profiles can get corrupted. Everything else might still be Windows 7, you know. Not complaining at this point about Windows 7. But the new UI changes they make -- including Cortana and all of that, it just stinks, it is a breach of privacy, they are selling your data, etc. etc. etc. So you can say everything you want about Linux (or OpenSUSE) but linux is actually GAINING, not getting further behind. Microsoft was in a good spot and in the position of making improvements, but they did not. If things go on the way they do (and Wayland MIGHT make the grade you know) there will mostly come a point where games and other forms of commercial apps will become easier to develop and publish on Linux. ID software started it back then by publishing Quake 3 (and I bought it commercially, I don't have the disk anymore but still the metal case) -- yes I bought a Linux game for about 120 guilders. I think. I think the interest of publishers for Linux is going to go up and I guess that is a good thing. There are various commercial games you can already install on Steam. I don't like Steam all that much, but, the development in itself is not Steam based, it is just a platform, it could run without it as well. I mean popular games, such as: Dota 2, Borderlands 2. Sure there is no Photoshop but it might come at some point, I don't know. I would expect mostly games and stuff of a similar kind. Meanwhile I will just say that I consider Linux still much uglier, most people working for it or in it or with it are tech people, they are rational people, they are not designers, there is scarcely any attention for the user design perspective, people really do not CARE about the user experience because they feel labouring on is a good thing, only the sun rises for naught and if you want to use it, you should "expect" suffering for it on end. Linux people in general and its IT tech people crowd only care about software, but not about looks, or they care about looks and then have a weird perception of it. Breeze is just crap, many people don't like it. All of the alternative Window Decorations you can install are just nonsense. There is not any good one among them. Most applications look more hideous (or less pretty) on Linux. Just look at Chrome: it cannot even get rid of the default title bar. Neither can Opera but it is less bad for Opera. Whatever you say, the windows of applications in Linux look bland. It is a lot of grey surface, for some reason this is not the case on Windows, even for the same apps. The word that describes my experience when I enter Linux coming from Windows is "visual poverty". And THE application that is most wrongly designed is Kate/Kwrite. In default themes/setup/configurations its visual balance is so rotten no one could get a grade better than a 3 or some D/E while designing it. If this was a visual design class, they would not graduate. The moment you enter Linux, visually a poverty besets you. It is like playing World of Warcraft and now you can only play Majong. It is like eating roasted beef and now you can only eat unspiced and unsalted chicken. If people would get together and determine what is important, a lot would or could change. But in general everyone who wants to improve these things is bullied, laughed at, ostracised. sdm schreef op 29-03-16 18:26:
KDE's Smart window placement always annoying me where it randomly scatters windows you open where it thinks you want it, which always it NOT where I want the window. IIRC X doesn't support remembering the positioning of where windows were after closing them, as does Microsoft Windows since probably what, Windows 95 or 98? I always set it to centered (Window Actions and Behavior > Advances) which works for the most part, but I'm assuming Wayland will solve most or all of these issues. But Wayland looks to be severely delayed; what is going on with that project and when can we expect it? I thought it was supposed to be shipping already a long time ago, but every time they say "it's coming" it never happens, and the current Wayland beta on openSUSE is a total disaster and barely runs on any GPU I've tried it on.
The fact that Wayland barely works and X is a hodge-podge disaster based on code from 1983, just further prooves that Linux (and this includes openSUSE) on the desktop, when we're comparing graphics and GUI's, is behind Windows and has a LONG way to go until it's "feature complete" on on par with Windows. How much longer are we all going to have to wait, and by that time how much further ahead will Windows be? Don't be a fanboy, be a realist.
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