On Wed, Oct 13, 2004 at 02:14:17PM -0500, jfweber@bellsouth.net wrote:
*** Reply to message from Anders Johansson
on Wed, 13 Oct 2004 18:48:50 +0200 One more candle and a trip around the Sun*** User space applications won't see a big difference of course, if that's what you meant. Things will still run
That is one of the nicest things that can be said of Linux... there is such a thing as User space, and it is honored, most of the time, so things will "Still run"..
It's one of the things I have trouble explaining to people who aren't "into" computers.. let me or someone else set up a suitable and safe linux for you, and just plink away at a keyboard or clickety click w/ your mouse.. "things just work" ( once we get a nice stable setup , and a suitably tight firewall.. <G>) but the user doesn't need to know any of that... and BTW isn't that what the MS os is suposed to do ???? I've got some folks using it where they have no idea what Linux IS, but they love thier computer now, no virii, w/ a wee bit of work , not too many
Heh, my Mom isn't a computer person and I installed SUSE for her one day. She did fine and liked it, but then of course she needed an application that only had Windows points, so I had to erase it and install Windows again. Instead of 98 I put Windows 2000 Professional on since I dont use it right now and I paid for it. The thing wouldn't work in 2000, but after some playing, I got it and her printer working fine.
My son in law wanted me to erase windows from his computer... tho now he is glad I didn't. He has to take some classes for work, and they insist on only MS proggy's and I.E. DUMB!! Still, I've tolkd my daughter what to do to make his Linux browser ID itself as IE... and told her also to get either or both firefox and Moz... if they have to be in Windows and web browse better to keep IE away..
I can totally feel for you here. I have an online class and my college makes you use XP, Office XP at least, and IE. But of course anyone who knows me from this list knows I like to argue. I had a little "chat" with a teacher, you can now use Linux too do your Homework as long as it's pproperly formatted, but you still have to use IE for the online class. I hate that and pointed out how in the book it says "You must use a reliable computer running Windows and IE" and said that wasn't possible ;)
IF they lived closer I'd set up Konqi to lie to his school for him, and give him Codeweavers to do whatever work he needs to do in Winders.. but It's rather hard to do over the phone. He sorta understands what the computer's system is doing ... but only sorta. I'm thinking it will eat cel ( mobile) phone minutes to do anything too far out unless there is someone to handhold while we tiptoe thru the setup... ( conversations that start w/ "okay, what do you see on your screen? Begin at the upper left hand corner and work your way accross". ) At least, now that I'm on the right coast, they can't wake me up to tell me the computer *ate* 6 months of billing reccords or something equally catostrophic.... <heavy sigh>
Too me SUSE is one of the most secure Linux distros available. Being able to download updates before you even boot up is one of the best ideas I've seen, ever. I've been plugging for SUSE before that though, I got SUSE 8.1 Professional, and when I bought it, it wasn't new as 8.2 was coming out already, and that was when I got into Linux and started using it.
My sister, who is completely unsavy about computers is switching tho I'm putting her and some others on Xandros, just because it looks so windows-y it *should* cut down the phone calls. Linspire or whatever they are calling it this week would be my next choice for home computer users who only want to web surf and do email... Tho if I set them up they never know what they could do if root was the default login... ( I also disable the auto login that Suse is doing now, once the video card is set <G>) Let them understand the value of good passwords, if for no other reason than to keep the kiddies from reading the Xmas lists ... once they get reletively at ease w/ Linux, we will talk about encrypting things... like email !! <G>
OF course if things get much much too hairy, I yell for Anders, one of the two of them should help bail me out of the problem that has managed to get away from me ... <VBG>
BTW don't I owe one of you two some Good Karma bonus points????
about to hit the road... will chat more next week after I get back... ( in case I've managed to offend <G>) Huntsville calls ...
-- j -- nemo me impune lacessit
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