On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:38:28 -0400, Larry Stotler wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 12:29 PM, Jim Henderson
wrote: I'd say part of the goal is to not just find *problems*, but to propose *solutions*. And not "gimme a CD-based distro", but to *really* make an effort to solve the problem. If you have some skills (and you seem to, since you do your installs via NFS - presumably you set up the NFS server for this purpose, so you must know *something*), instead of asking "why don't YOU do this?" ask "How can I help make this happen?".
I will agree with that. However, this thread deteriorated really fast because instead of asking that question, everyone wanted to offer a solution that isn't what was requested. CD based installation media. The purpose is to offer that for those who need it, not offer work arounds for experienced users.
Well, it started with a question, and when the response was "there won't be an official CD-based installation because it's not needed", the requests turned into demands. I've already said my peace on these "newbie users", so I won't repeat myself. I don't know, though, that those workarounds are only good for experienced users. Given the number of network-based installation options available and repositories online, it's not terribly difficult to set something like that up unless you have no network to begin with. Files on an external drive also isn't terribly difficult to do. Someone who can download and burn CDs should be able to handle that without too much trouble, and if they got to the point of actually doing that, they can also ask questions about how it's done.
So rather than asking "can you make them available?" ask "how can we - as a community - make them available?". That's a more constructive way and you can get like-minded people to start a conversation rather than just jump on the MeToo wagon.
Again, I grant that. However, we did ask that in the beginning. Maybe not in that way, but it was requested, not demanded. I added in my support for the need for CD based media.
When the answer wasn't satisfactory, the request turned to a demand. That took us down a path of two sides solidifying their stands rather than working to find a solution.
I haven't had a need for a long time. Maybe someone else knows and can provide some info. There may be something on the openSUSE wiki about how the DVDs are built. That might be a place to start - by asking about how the DVD boot process works for the installer, how it determines it has the right media in the drive, and so on.
Then I'll start a new thread asking that. Thanx for a useful suggestion.
Saw that. Good luck. Jim -- Jim Henderson Please keep on-topic replies on the list so everyone benefits -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org