On Sat, Jun 21, 2008 at 9:47 AM, Rajko M.
On Saturday 21 June 2008 08:01:40 am Ken Schneider wrote:
It was never my intention to open a can of worms when I started this thread. I just wanted to vent/rant a little about KDE 4. It should never have been presented on the main desktop selection screen as it gives the user a false sense of being mature enough for everyday use. Telling someone to install 4.1 afterward is pointless as new users won't know anything about it and will be left with a bad taste in their mouth.
Ken, everyone complaining is comparing KDE4 to KDE3. It is not fair to compare well developed stuff, after years of development, with new kid in town. I see only guys with hidden agenda, or naive to fall in their net, to complain. I guess you are the second category.
That's preposterous. KDE4 is not "a New Kid in town." KDE4 is billed as the new "major version of the K Desktop Environment." Its the same product in the developer's eyes. Therefore, we have a proper expectation that it should include everything its predecessor did. KDE4, at this point is a major retrograde step. Where have you EVER heard of a release 4 of anything being less complete than a release 3?
KDE guys follow their convention where base of the name is KDE with appended major version number and trolls are misusing this systematically. No one is talking about features, versions, just general KDE4, like that is all the same.
It is all the same product. Go read the KDE website.
If they would be interested in advancement, they will be more detailed, but they are not. The KDE naming is misused to deter new users from KDE4 which will reduce number of people filling bug reports, asking for features, and that will slow down current rush development.
Why should we have to ask for features that were there in 3.5? When the next kernel comes out should we expect it to have dropped multi-user support, serial line support, and keyboard interfaces and still be billed as the next major release? And if it did, should we busily run around and fill out bug reports telling the devs to put back in all the stuff they intentionally stripped out?
I don't think that is just some annoying guy crusade. Whoever will benefit from delaying KDE4 development is behind this.
And not that you've donned the tin foil hat, who does your conspiracy theory suggest might benefit from delaying KDE4?
Apropos KDE4, it is usable. It has all basic functions of the desktop and many more are in place.
If we wanted basic functions, we would be running Xfce4. We wanted all the rich functionality that kde3 had.
You can't mark it as alpha, beta, as number of functions over what is expected for basic desktop does not determine software status.
Yes you can. When you go into your product, strip OUT functions and then bill it as a the next major release of the product you have taken a retrograde step.
Just check existing, and if you see something missing add your report. That will help you and developers. They will see feature request, and adjust priorities in porting functionality, and you will get feature sooner.
How bout adding back in all the code the gutted? How about starting with what they HAD and improving from there? The reference model is right there for them. KDE4.2 might be a suitable replacement for KDE3.5. -- ----------JSA--------- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org