Hello, all--and probably goodbye-- I know you have been helpful thruout all this time-- I've been with SuSE since 7.1, but I've had it. The mail program (KMail) seems to forget its SMPT information, it also forgot its screen mode, now having to click twice on a message, and then having it come up in a little quarter- screen window. I've never been able to get any kind of sound, much less video, even tho the built-in noises work. Open Office will no longer open. I don't know where I go from here-- back to XP, for a while, I guess. I have a copy of Free-BSD, which I've never tried, but I guess I will. (9.1 crashed in such fashion that nothing would revive it. Before then, 8.2 gradually deteriorated to unusability. 9.2 has _already_ degraded to unusability.) This is a fairly modern machine, and XP runs perfectly on it. I guess I will be watching for a few days, while you all flame me, but enough is enough. Thank you for the help you have offered over the years. --doug