On Saturday 04 August 2001 10:26 am, you wrote:
Actually with the number of SuSE users that seem to be using this product, I wonder if SuSE would consider providing an already patched (if possible) kernal as part of the standard distribution set.
I, and i'm sure many others, wouldn't mind having a try using win4lin but can't afford to have a "dead" system from a problem caused in kernal rebuilding.
my 2 cents scsijon ps I tried VMware but it's TOO COSTLY FOR WHAT IT DELIVERS, if it had win2000 and ME in it yes but as is no.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce Marshall"
To: "suse users" Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2001 4:49 AM Subject: Re: [SLE] win4lin On Friday 03 August 2001 14:21, Jyry Kuukkanen wrote:
Hello
Sorry I can't really help you at all in this case, but I can tell you
that
you might have to go through rather painful times to get win4lin
installed
and running. Giving help from Netraverse can be rather annoying prosess
as
well.
Win4lin is a very good product ones you get it up and running. Very good product, indeed.
But Netravere's support is bad. Installing their stock RPM kernel for
Suse
7.1 (2.4.0-4GB) goes fine, but for example Compaq Desktop series cd-rom interface doesn't really work with 7.1/2.4.0-4GB and patching any supported 2.4 kernel from kernel.org (2.4.3 or 2.4.4 or ...) might compile or not. And if it compiles, it either boots or not and ... ... ... ...
So good luck. As I mentioned, Netraverse support is *really* bad.
If only vmware's Exrpress was available for a try out, I might be able
to
suggest that, as they have a proper news server where users can openly discuss of installing problems and say out loud where the problems lies. Netraverse gives you "register and tell about your problem and we contact you" approach, which is not very nice nor quick or useful.
Not to start an argument but I just can't sit here and watch a company
that
really seems to be trying hit so hard. I have run Win4Lin and find it to
be
a very good package. I don't like that the kernel has to be patched, but
it
is a small price to pay for the performance you can get from Win4Lin.
As for their support, I think it is the best of any company I have ever
had
to deal with. They are:
1) Responsive (usually within the same day) 2) Hard working (I've given them some really tough problems) 3) Usually give good results. 4) And they FOLLOW-UP asking you what you thought of their support
service.
I don't know of anyone who does (4) and it shows me that they are
interested.
I have NO INTEREST WHATEVER in Netraverse. I am just a customer of one
copy
of Win4Lin and I currently have 1 tough problem on their list. I think
they
are excellent.
As for VMware, I would prefer to run it as I think it is a cleaner way to
do
things. However, I installed the 30 days trial last week and found it to
be
waaay too slow to work with. I never could get a double mouse-click to
work
and instead had to RMB click and then use the OPEN from the dialog popup. Also, just clicking on a button didn't seem to work right, and if you
clicked
on a button, it would depress but not release until you moved the mouse again. I found it totally unworkable and deleted it (and reported all
this
to VMWare in their followup of the evaluation)
All of the above was run on an 800mhz Athlon, with 512MB memory using
Ultra
SCSI160 harddrives... so I don't think hardware limitations were the
problem.
I got win4lin working with 7.1 but it was definetly not easy. (I wonder what win4lin would think if I charged them for something and then one of their engineers had to spend a week (at their expense) trying to get it going?). The support was good, at least they responded in a timely manner, no answers, just responses. Then when I upgraded to SuSE 7.2 win4lin stopped as expected, but I have not had the chance to get it going. I contacted netraverse for a kernel patch and they responded promptly that they may do one eventually. It is a shame, because this is an excellent product. Phil