Steve Jeppesen wrote:
wtf! Why do you keep coming back like a stray cat? Who keeps feeding Aaron?
I can see why some are disappointed in KDE4, but if you look beneath the surface, there's a lot of potential there. Every new system has birthing pains -- some of us are more resistant to them than others. I updated a 10.3 workstation to 11.0/KDE4 on Thursday, when it first became available, and had some disappointments. I couldn't install and run Amarok, for example, so no way to import my server music library in a familiar application. But I kept going. Installed a brand new server yesterday (two 750GB drives) and set it up the way I'd always wished I'd had disk space for, and most things worked. But not all. I spent until 2am trying to get the server talking with my Windows and Linux workstations, and eventually got there. But KDE4 was still frustrating. I finally broke down and removed KDE4 from both machines, and installed KDE3. Somewhere I'd heard that the two aren't compatible, and I wouldn't be able to switch, so I changed over completely. Got things working the way I wanted. Then I found out that I CAN have both, and switch sessions at will. So I reinstalled KDE4 on both machines, and then UPDATED. There were post-release fixes that I didn't expect already. And the final result is, I'm able to do whatever I want with both machines, in KDE4. And the new GUI really IS slick. I'm impressed. And I anticipate that by doing an online update from time to time, it will only get better. I doubt that I'll need to return to KDE3 to do anything I really need to do, but if that DOES become necessary, all I'll need to do is log off, and start a new session. That's ordinarily pretty painless. The only remaining issue for me is that authentication takes forever. Logging on takes a couple of minutes (on the workstation, which was upgraded -- not on the server, which was a new install). Starting YaST or a root console (or SU) takes a couple of minutes (literally). If anyone has any ideas what I can do about that, I'd appreciate it. I'll probably put up with it for a while, then do a new installation on the workstation that preserves my original /home, but I truly hope it doesn't come to that. If I'd only done the update, I'd be pretty upset with both 11.0 and KDE4. But since it's working great on the server, I know the problem is somewhere in my installation, and not inherent to the new OS or GUI. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org