I've been a faithful buyer and user of SuSE since 1998. I didn't like the Novell takeover too much, but swallowed even if it was painful. I like the Novell Microsoft deal even less: as this list abundantly illustrates, SuSE talk is now mostly about about sleeping with the enemy, patent infringements, please include win32 codecs and the like. I find it interesting that the list is now split between whiners and non-whiners posting please-whine-on-the-OT-list messages My primary aim in moving to linux was to move away from Microsoft and its dubious business/licensing practices. I will now move away from Novell SuSE and its dubious practices. Many of you on this list who helped me solve problems over the last eight years will be sorely missed. Kubuntu, anyone? FX -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org