-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Richard Creighton wrote:
On Thu March 12 2009 11:20:42 am Carlos E. R. wrote:
Larry Stotler wrote:
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 11:26 PM, Carlos E. R.
wrote: Then leave and go there, please. Never would I have expected that from you. Well, you refuse to understand why it can't be done what you want. You say they do it better... therefore, you have to use that distro, opensuse is not for you.
I'm not excluding or firing you.
Carlos, Perhaps the PulseAudio issue of dependency is not the real issue. I think Larry was trying to point out that LAZY programming practices where dependencies are made at much to high levels and bring in entire systems of often unrelated programs and subsystems that have no bearing or support for the program the library/dependency was added to with perhaps only 1 or two of the lower level subsystems included in that higher level library. A proper dependency would be to separate the lower level sub-library and make that the dependency. Of course, that takes extra work and given it only adds a megabyte or a few hundred kilobytes to do it the easy way, they just add the whole kaboodle...and don't even make a stub library AND the big 'kaboodle' library which could then be left out if someone wanted to remove the package without destroying the links you mentioned necessary for those other functions you mentioned used by KDE, Gnome or other libraries that might use the package.
That's precisely what I have been saying all along: pulseaudio is designed that way. There is a library you can not remove, and if you try it will remove the desktop, and there is the big rest which you can remove. In fact, if you go to YaST, Hardware, Sound configuration, then on the "Other" button there is a list, one of which items says "Pulse Audio configuration", which if selected allows you to enable or disable pulseaudio. I fact, mine is disabled. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.1-ex-factory) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkm5b3YACgkQU92UU+smfQWJpQCeMmPDixfDTou+98nOAJAbc2RC Gz0AniMopqxUyuvfNH9eftUYg3Y6x5XM =bBP7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org