On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 13:30 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2010/07/23 16:11 (GMT+0200) Roger Oberholtzer composed:
On Fri, 2010-07-23 at 16:15 +0300, Dotan Cohen wrote:
Thanks, Iliya, for bringing this up. I think that this is the source of frustration for most KDE 3 users: KDE 4 is not KDE 3. KDE 3 was a great desktop, KDE 4 is just an average desktop. It was buggy and feature-incomplete for the first three minor number versions. But the KDE devs really do want to fix the outstanding issues. Let me know what they are.
Things like Konsole no longer letting you specify the size in characters. It is holding character apps, not raster apps. So it did make sense to specify the size in that manner. (--vt_size)
Or Konsole no longer having an option to keep the window after the application running in it ends. (--noclose)
To name a few. Konsole is not just for holding bash...
+1
Because I want Konsole3 behavior in Konsole4, I was told "create a theme". Well, all I know about themes is they aggravate me. Where I've stumbled onto how to disable themes, I've disabled them (KDM). Where I've stumbled onto how to revert to upstream themes, I've done that (Firefox).
I would be happy with themes if the options in KDE3 were available in the KDE4 konsole. The two I cited are show stoppers and are no longer available in KDE4. And they are simply not 'old KDE3 ideas'. They are the facts of life when running legacy character apps in Konsole. Why not use, say, xterm or some other terminal emulator? I have found that managing function keys (regular, shifted and such) is very difficult in them when you are interacting with KDE. This was our original approach. Konsole's processing of such keys is compatible with the rest of KDE. Foreign terminal emulators are pure hell in this area. That was what was so very nice about Konsole on KDE3. It played nice with the rest of KDE. Luckily this is still the case. -- Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org