November 2011 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse] 12.1 can't change runlevels
by lynn 24 Nov '11

24 Nov '11

Sorry if this has been discussed before but I need to be able to change runlevels. If I press ctrl-alt-f1 from kde it takes me to an incomplete boot screen with no login prompt. At the top of the screen is the error: failed to execute /etc/sysconfig/network/scripts/ifup-sysctl I can login on console 2. If as root I issue init 3, the system hangs and I have to press ctrl-alt-supr to reboot. Is it possible to change runlevels on 12.1? Thanks. L x -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: SSD in openSUSE.
by Joachim Schrod 24 Nov '11

24 Nov '11

Greg Freemyer wrote: > On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Joachim Schrod <jschrod(a)acm.org> wrote: >> If you can afford it, don't use 15% of the disk. To get this free >> space, use secure erase to reset the disk's firmware notion of what >> you're using, and then don't allocate 15% of the disk during >> partitioning. > > Undocumented feature time. First secure erase is not always > implemented on SSDs, so don't trust it. That's new for me, I haven't found this information via Google. Can you give more information, maybe perhaps some links, about that issue? I've always thought I can rely on secure erase via hdparm, while respecting the frozen issue/state. For the record: -- My SSD is a Micron Crucial RealSSD C300, i.e., a Indilinx-based drive, -- I bought it with a Thinkpad T420s. It was secured against erasing. I.e., "hdparm -I /dev/sda" explained it's frozen. -- So, I booted the Thinkpad from a SUSE DVD, and removed the hard disk while running and inserted it again. (This removes frozennes, AFAIK.) -- To check: hdparm --user-master u --security-set-pass xyzzy /dev/sda and then "hdparm -I /dev/sda" showed that the master pwd is "enabled". -- Then "hdparm --user-master u --security-erase xyzzy /dev/sda" Afterwards check, master password is not enabled any more. As far as I've read reports on the Net; this kind of actions (checking that secure erase is enabled and then really doing it) is supported by Linus. Do you have differing information? Joachim PS: For Roger: Encrypted filesystems with Linux and trim levelling are still a problem. I've read on LWN.net that it shall be better with 3.1; but confirmation of that is still pending. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] FYI: Tool kills hidden Linux bugs, vulnerabilities
by Hylton Conacher (ZR1HPC) 24 Nov '11

24 Nov '11

Read this <http://www.scmagazine.com.au/News/280893,tool-kills-hidden-linux-bugs-vulne… Hope its going to be included in OpenSuSe Hylton -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Kdetoys on openSuSE 12.1
by Erik Jakobsen 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Hi. I have installed Kdetoys with Yast. I would get Kworldclock up running. But I can't find it. Also an rpm -ql Kdetoys tells, that Kdetoys are not installed. Why this ? -- Venlig hilsen - Best regards - Erik Jakobsen Licensed HAM-RADIO with the callsign OZ4KK http://www.urbakken.dk Registered Linux user #114875 with http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Desktop Blanks Out
by Mark Misulich 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Hi, I installed openSuse 11.4 x64 on my parents' Dell Dimension E521. It has a problem in that the monitor blanks out to black about every 45 seconds or so for about 1-2 seconds. The cpu is an AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual Core Processor 3800+. The video is provided by a ATI Radeon X1300/1550 RV516. I have installed the legacy driver for ATI but that didn't help. Anyone have any ideas how to fix this? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] SSD in openSUSE.
by smartysmart34＠web.de 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

>On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 09:16, Hans Witvliet <suse(a)a-domani.nl> wrote: >Why is everyone still perpetuating the belief that Flash based SSDs >still need this careful management of write cycles? Do the math... >with current SSDs and their write cycle ratings (a current/new SSD >does not have a write cycle rating of 10,000 like they did 4 or 5 >years ago... you are looking at 5,000,000 or more write cycles now), >you would have to basically do many hundreds of GBs (or even several >TB on larger drives) of writing every single day for 40 to 50 years or >even more to hit the write access barriers. Everyone is basing this >whole "I have to minimize write cycles" thing on SSD specs of several >years ago. I do not know where you got this info from but the opposite is the case. With shrinking structure sizes to around 25 nm (and less in the near future) the amount of write cycles dropped drastically to approximately 3.000 to 5.000 write cycles. The manufacturers often give a number called Total Bytes Written and for a current Crucial M4 this is somewhere around 72 TB. This represents 40 GB/day over 5 years. For a normal system this may still be plenty, BUT: If you have a SWAP-Partition or the pagefile on that SSD and are hibernating a 24 GB Workstation twice a day this may surely affect your SSD at some point. Regards, Martin ___________________________________________________________ SMS schreiben mit WEB.DE FreeMail - einfach, schnell und kostenguenstig. Jetzt gleich testen! http://f.web.de/?mc=021192 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] No more reboot options in 12.1
by James Knott 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

When first installed, openSUSE 12.1 has options on reboot and shut down, for selecting the partition to boot from. After using 12.1 for a while, those options disappeared. This problem also occured in the RCs. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] enigmail w/tbird 8.0 on 11.4?
by David C. Rankin 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Guys, With the rapid version race in thunderbird, enigmail no longer works. Is there a planned update in the near future? If not, is there an equivalent add-on or package that will provide the same functionality on x86_64? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Printer/MFC recommendation
by Rodney Baker 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Hi all. I'm just wondering what others on the list are using in the way of MFC (Multi Function Centre) type printers? I have a Brother MFC-665CW which I'm thinking of replacing. Brother do have limited Linux support but I'm sure there's better around. The prime considerations will be seamless Linux support, ease of operation (since the wife will be using it too) and decent quality photo printing. I'd prefer a network-capable unit rather than USB (mainly so it doesn't necessarily have to be co-located with the PC). Any suggestions? -- =================================================== Rodney Baker VK5ZTV rodney.baker(a)iinet.net.au =================================================== -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] YaST2-Schemata
by Sascha Manns 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Hello mates, in the last version 11.4 there was a bundle of Schematas (like 32bit -Runtime- Environment in YaST2 like in this Picture: http://hostinfo.ru/ill/070916YaST2-360x267.png. Exists a Equivalent in 12.1 too? And if yes, which package contains this? -- Sincerly yours Sascha Manns Community &Support Agent open-slx GmbH http://www.open-slx.de This mail is written with Balsam Professional 12.1

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[opensuse] SSD in openSUSE.
by Roger Oberholtzer 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

We are currently exploring installing openSUSE on a system with SSD storage. I am curious what others have experienced with these disks. Specifically, 1. What version of openSUSE has the best support? I guess the obvious answer would be 12.1. But what version first had decent support? The SSD suppliers suggest that Linux kernel 2.6.33 is a minimum requirement. 2. What SSD features are good to have and are supported in openSUSE? 3. What outstanding issues are there that might make one think twice? A big reason for this is that good SCSI disks are currently unavailable in Sweden at this time. So we are looking for an alternative for some installs we plan over the coming months. Any advice is welcome. Yours sincerely, Roger Oberholtzer OPQ Systems / Ramböll RST Office: Int +46 10-615 60 20 Mobile: Int +46 70-815 1696 roger.oberholtzer(a)ramboll.se ________________________________________ Ramböll Sverige AB Krukmakargatan 21 P.O. Box 17009 SE-104 62 Stockholm, Sweden www.rambollrst.se -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] MonoDevelop "Unhandled Exceptions" on startup
by Adam Tauno Williams 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

I'm a heavy MonoDevelop user. Under 12.1 I have to click through dozens of "Unhandled Exception" dialogs every time I start Monodevelop. Once I'm through all those MD works fine. The dialogs all contain the details of - System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object at GLib.Object.NotifyCallback (IntPtr handle, IntPtr pspec, IntPtr gch) [0x00000] in <filename unknown>:0 monodevelop-2.4.2-3.1.2.noarch -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] VMware Workstation on 12.1 Fails To Build Modules
by Adam Tauno Williams 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Trying to install VMware Workstation on openSUSE 12.1 [was previously using 11.4 successfully]. ERROR: modinfo: could not find module vsock Stopping VMware services: VMware USB Arbitrator done VM communication interface socket family done Virtual machine communication interface done Virtual machine monitor done Blocking file system done Using 2.6.x kernel build system. make: Entering directory `/tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only' make -C /lib/modules/3.1.0-1.2-desktop/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. \ MODULEBUILDDIR= modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-3.1.0-1.2-obj/x86_64/desktop' CC [M] /tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o /tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only/linux/driver.c:788:59: error: ‘SPIN_LOCK_UNLOCKED’ undeclared here (not in a function) make[4]: *** [/tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only/linux/driver.o] Error 1 make[3]: *** [_module_/tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only] Error 2 make[2]: *** [sub-make] Error 2 make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-3.1.0-1.2-obj/x86_64/desktop' make: *** [vmmon.ko] Error 2 make: Leaving directory `/tmp/vmware-root/modules/vmmon-only' -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Re: SSD in openSUSE.
by Joachim Schrod 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Roger Oberholtzer wrote: > We are currently exploring installing openSUSE on a system with SSD > storage. I am curious what others have experienced with these disks. > Specifically, > > 1. What version of openSUSE has the best support? I guess the obvious > answer would be 12.1. But what version first had decent support? The SSD > suppliers suggest that Linux kernel 2.6.33 is a minimum requirement. I use 11.4 and am satisfied with its support. > 2. What SSD features are good to have and are supported in openSUSE? Do not use mount option discard, it effects performance negatively. (That's validated up to kernel 3.0, and might change in newer kernels.) Don't use a distribution with a kernel < 2.34. Use fstrim in a cron job. I don't know when it appeared in a SUSE release, 11.4 has it. If you can afford it, don't use 15% of the disk. To get this free space, use secure erase to reset the disk's firmware notion of what you're using, and then don't allocate 15% of the disk during partitioning. > 3. What outstanding issues are there that might make one think twice? smartd support is said not to be solidly available for all SSD disks. But the problem is that this kind of gossip is not validated, and hard evidence is hard to come by. Enterprise SSDs have proper support anyhow, Intel disks seem to be OK, too, and I've got a Crucial C300 that seems to work as well. HTH, Joachim -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Joachim Schrod Email: jschrod(a)acm.org Roedermark, Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] LM_sensors, slight understanding problem in 12.1
by C. van Nidek 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

In order to make use of the sensors in my machine I ran into a problem with my new setup of 12.1 After running sensors-detect I followed the net text: Do you want to overwrite /etc/sysconfig/lm_sensors? (YES/no): y Copy prog/init/lm_sensors.service to /lib/systemd/system and run 'systemctl enable lm_sensors.service' for initialization at boot time. The copy "prog/init/lm_sensors.service" etc etc is the part I have problem with. Where can prog be found or is this an abbreviation of program or where can the /init/ be found? Can somebody help me out? -- Linux User 183145 using LXDE and KDE4 on a Pentium IV , powered by openSUSE 11.4 (i586) Kernel: 3.2.0-rc2-2-desktop LXDE WM & KDE Development Platform: 4.7.3 (4.7.3) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] proprietary nvidea viz. nouveau
by phanisvara das 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

so far, since installng openSUSE 12.1, i have been using the nouveau driver, happy that it finally worked, including flash, desktop effects, and whatever else i'm doing with my machine (excludes heavy-duty gaming). today i installed nvidia 290.10 (x86_64) and find that the overall impression is _much_ better than before. not sure what exactly changed, perhaps font hinting, which i installed separately, works now, but it's a huge difference. -- phani. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Trouble with kmail
by eddie 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Having installed by upgrade, opensuse 12.1 everything seems to have gone smoothly except for akonadi and kmail. The migration failed which, if I understand correctly, is a common problem but kmail continually failed to even start successfully. Having done some googling, kmail now starts with no error messages but also with no email messages, no folders and I can't send or receive messages. I have now install evolution and it works fine. Sees all my messages and folders, and I can both send and receive mail. I would be glad to hear if anyone is using the new kmail, what they did to get it going. I connect to both pop and imap servers for my mail. Many thanks Eddie -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] systemd: Unit file of created job changed on disk ?
by Per Jessen 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

I have no idea what this means: # rcsnmpd start redirecting to systemctl Warning: Unit file of created job changed on disk, 'systemctl --system daemon-reload' recommended. a) what does "Unit file of created job changed on disk" mean? Google has no good answers. b) the snmpd daemon didn't start, I can't see why. Where did the error messages go? I can't find anything related in /var/log/* -- Per Jessen, Zürich (5.6°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] A comment
by Bruce Ferrell 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Helpful lizards from around the world, I want to say that I know what releases are like in my company. Stress levels go SKY high. You folks have taken on big changes with this release... Maybe larger than was perhaps wise for a volunteer organization. I usually wait a while before installing a new release, I usually wait a bit to let things die down some gaining the benefit of the first waves experience. This time, I'm in the first wave and it's no fun. My experience in the past with the support here on the list has been unrivaled except by the old Novell lists (old=Netware 2.15 etc). With this release, I noticed a "difference" I feel compelled to comment on and I want to be very clear, I'm attacking no one nor am I criticizing. What I've noted is a tendency to short, less informative answers, a tendency to react defensively, deny or debate reports of difficulties and just a general level of snarkiness. I don't think the list has seen a massive influx of windows converts (who, even if we want to, shouldn't be treated like idiots), I could be wrong. This isn't a "them" and "us" situation. Please, lets try not to turn it into one. I for one, even if I don't write patches, do contribute by doing bug reports, buying the boxed set and doing all I can to promote Suse in my workplace. Even if these contributions aren't globally visible and well known, what does it hurt to ask a question or two if you didn't get enough information to help, or just not answer at all if all you can respond with is a nasty RTFM. OK, back to the mines. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] SSD in openSUSE.
by Henson Sturgill 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

>> > On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 22:40 +0100, Smartysmart34 wrote: >> > > I use an SSD with openSuse 11.4 and had no problems so far. To minimise >> > > write-access and to support TRIM on that SSD I did the following: >> > > >> > > 1) Mounted / with "discard"-Option >> > > 2) Moved SWAP, var and temp to a separate disk >> > > 3) home has been on a separate disk from the beginning and it still is >> > > >> > > System running fine for allmost 6 months now. I got a cheap Intel SSD and have been using it as the only drive in my netbook for around a year now, with no issues. I abuse it weekly, trying out different distros -- though I think I might just stick with openSUSE now. Now that all SSDs support TRIM and firmwares properly spread out their writes, I think most of the SSD myths have been broken. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Cautionary Tale about Thunderbird and Add-ons updates
by Basil Chupin 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

Your mileage may vary but before allowing Add-ons to be updated by the Add-ons Checker in Thunderbird do a backup of your ~/.thunderbird directory. For the second time now (a few minutes ago and yesterday) all my Extensions and Appearance add-ons were wiped when I allowed an Extension to be updated. To recover I had to overwrite the corrupted Extensions directory in .thunderbird/defaultxxxxxx with the one from yesterday's backup to get them all back. This is on 12.1 with KDE4.7.3 and Thunderbird 8.0. (I don't know if the same would occur with Firefox 8.0.) BC -- Diapers and politicians should be changed often; both for the same reason. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse] Re: SSD in openSUSE.
by Adam Tauno Williams 23 Nov '11

23 Nov '11

On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 18:50 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote: > On Tuesday, November 22, 2011 09:44:01 PM Adam Tauno Williams wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-11-22 at 17:54 -0800, Roger Luedecke wrote: > > > What would be a good filesystem catering to SSD strenghts and > > > weaknesses? A friend of mine swears by XFS > > XFS certainly had it's day. But today I'd use BTRFS. It has features > > XFS hasn't even thought about, is rapidly becoming the 'default' > > filesystem, and ....drumroll... has automatic SSD mode [bulk trim added > > in 2.6.39 - May 2011]. Mount with the "ssd" option although btrfs will > > likely set this automatically. > However btrfs has a number of performance drawbacks. Does it perform better on > an SSD than another FS would? What drawbacks? <http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_2639_fs> This looks either neck-and-neck or a win to me. And in any case, if I have to pay a small price for snapshots, checksums, LVM-in-the-FS, RAID-in-the-FS, compression, and subvolumes.... no problem; that is a win, hands down. Experience a filesystem on a flaky drive [or a flaky SAN] and you'll be willing to pay a *hefty* price for checksums. Storage devices, especially as volumes soar, can *NOT* be trusted. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] polkit cruft?
by Lew Wolfgang 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

Hi Folks, I just noticed lots of processes of the following form on a 12.1 box that's been up about 24-hours: 23158 ? S 0:00 /usr/lib/polkit-1/polkit-agent-helper-1 root cookie40 There are 93 of them with varying cookie numbers. Is this normal polkit behavior, or is something not cleaning up after itself? Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] Size adjustmet of window
by Erik Jakobsen 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

Hi. My default size when the window opens is about 1/4 of the screen. This might be configurable, but how ?. Can this be adjustable ? /Erik -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse] How to set UID for the user when installing oS 11.x or 12.1?
by Istvan Gabor 22 Nov '11

22 Nov '11

Hello: The subject line says it: I would like to set the user ID for the user I set during installation. The installer would set it to 1000 but I want a different UID. How can I do it? Also, how can I set other user properties, as groups, password things during installation? Thanks, Istvan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner(a)opensuse.org

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