July 2005 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Internet Problem Over LAN
by James Wright 04 Aug '05

04 Aug '05

Hello, I have Suse 9.2 running on 2 PCs in a Windows domain. The main domain server is Windows 2003. All of the thin clients and Windows machines are connecting to the internet fine. The Suse machines connect to the internet as well, but there are quite a few pages that are unreachable. Windows will load these pages, even running in VMWare on the Suse machines. Apparently I have a DNS problem, but I can't seem to figure it out. For my DNS I had two local addresses (for the Windows Server 2003 boxes). I added one of the ISPs DNS to the list, but it did not resolve the problem. I removed the Windows Server 2003 DNS entirely, and replaces with the ISPs DNS addresses, but still have the same problem. I must be missing something, but what? I am happy to post my DNS if necessary, is there a command line program that I can use to list this, so it is easier to send via e-mail? I would rather that than transcribing from Yast. Thanks. James Wright

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Dule boot question
by Mister 04 Aug '05

04 Aug '05

I have another version of linux on another partition and i installed SUSE. now Grub does not see the other version of linux. How can i fix this ? Regards, Dab Gordon -- Sat Jul 30 14:46:07 EDT 2005 2:46pm up 22:47, 3 users, load average: 0.09, 0.02, 0.01 "Wagner's music is better than it sounds." -- Mark Twain

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Proposals for SUSE list managers
by Arun Khan 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

Hello members, In the past couple of weeks I have sent a few suggestions to the list owner but have not received any feedback from him/her. Basically here are my suggestions: a) "Reply To" header - each SuSE list must use the "Reply To" header in the messages sent to members e.g. for this list, it should be "Reply To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com" All other lists that I am a member of use this feature. When members reply, they do not have to worry about editing the "To" header or right clicking in their message body or whatever. With this header the response _simply_ goes to the relevant SuSE list. I don't understand why SuSE list manager is not configured to do so. b) Digest mode - provide a digest option when member subscribes to any of SuSE's list. Again, all other lists that I am a member of provide this feature. Personally, I prefer the digest since the messages downloaded are fewer. I am sure the mailer program for SuSE lists has the digest feature. c) Google search bar for each of SuSE list archives. At http://lists.suse.com/archive/ I did not see any search capability. Perhaps they will listen if enough people voice their opinion. Thank you. -- Arun Khan <knura at yahoo dot com> Linux is a wigwam: No Windows, No Gates, Apache inside.

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Re: [SLE] swap space question in 9.3 install
by Carlos E. R. 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 El 2005-07-29 a las 00:41 +0100, Jonathan Brooks escribió: You forgot to email to the list. > Huh, what has swap got to do with suspending to disk? I thought it just > mirrored what physical RAM you have installed????? Well, ask the kernel developpers :-) They decided to use swap space as space for swapping or suspending to disk. It makes sense to me, tasks are just swapped out completely before swapping out memory pages; it is a raw partition, no drivers involved: just ideal. In fact, when restoring, some memory pages are not swapped back in, they stay off for days. Look: top - 02:42:07 up 16 days, 4 min, 25 users, load average: 0.08, 0.22, 0.27 Tasks: 166 total, 1 running, 165 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie Cpu(s): 8.3% us, 2.7% sy, 0.0% ni, 88.4% id, 0.3% wa, 0.3% hi, 0.0% si Mem: 775852k total, 682772k used, 93080k free, 13196k buffers Swap: 1052216k total, 224240k used, 827976k free, 404580k cached Notice the used swap area, and ram used, free and cached. - -- Saludos Carlos Robinson -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFC6Xw5tTMYHG2NR9URAuJFAJ9CAB5Fju519deoTTdYnrC4ytvuJQCdHa8+ F4YxwOW784L6jm3ezoLSD7k= =S9Vq -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Samsung Yepp YP-T7Z on SuSE 9.2
by Marc Christensen 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

Hi all, I just purchased a Samsung Yepp YP-T7Z 1GB flash MSP/OGG player which I'm very happy with. Ahem...The tuner works great but I would like to get my ogg collection onto the player and I don't have windows at home. http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2c_product_detail.jsp?prod… So, from what I understand, the player should appear as a USB mass storage device with some folders inside for music, pictures, etc. to which I should be able to copy my music. The problem is that when I connect the player to the USB hub on my SuSE 9.2 box (with all available updates), the machine cranks away for about ten seconds before it stops and then I click on "My Computer" where nothing shows up. This behavior is unlike my 64MB USB flash drive that I use which shows up perfectly and unlike my 60GB USB harddisk which also works fine in this system. So, what's up? Anyone else seeing this behavior? Anyone else using a Samsung player with Linux? Thanks. -- Marc Christensen http://www.mecworks.com http://blog.mecworks.com http://gallery.mecworks.com

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RE: [SLE] Spamassassin and spamd
by James D. Parra 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

>I typically upgrade SpamAssassin using the cpan method, however this >does occasionally cause a number of issues, some of which can take >some time to identify the cause of and resolve (the upgrade from >SpamAssassin 2.* to 3.* was particularly problematic in this respect, >due to a change in policy by the SpamAssassin maintainers in where >certain binaries were by default installed). >However, rather than building it yourself (or using cpan), you might >want to try: >http://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/choeger/spamassassin/i386/9.3/ Thank you for your response. Not sure which I should use. I built the rpms for the tarball with rpmbuild which created the following; Wrote: /usr/src/packages/RPMS/i586/spamassassin-3.0.4-1.i586.rpm Wrote: /usr/src/packages/RPMS/i586/spamassassin-tools-3.0.4-1.i586.rpm Wrote: /usr/src/packages/RPMS/i586/perl-Mail-SpamAssassin-3.0.4-1.i586.rpm Should I uninstall "spamd"? Also, should I install these using Yast or just use rpm -Uvh? Thank you, ~James

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Trouble with YaST...
by JB 02 Aug '05

02 Aug '05

Hey gang, Today for the first time I tried to use the runlevel editor in YaST on my 9.3 system, but when it started it got to about 'cron' and then just sat there and did nothing more. Everything below 'cron' remained with the question marks. I even let it sit for an hour and a half and still nothing happened, it just sat there with the little clock next to the cursor. Anyone else had this problem? Any 'fix' anyone knows of? I'm updated with YOU since yesterday by the way. Thanks, JB

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firefox
by Mitja 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

Hi! SuSE 9.3, KDE 3.4.1, Firefox 1.0.6 I tried to open web page http://www.newsforge.com/articles/05/07/19/1824234.shtml but Mozilla-Firefox crashes all time. Konqueror open page correct. Thanks, Mitja

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DVD Hardware Question
by Greg Wallace 01 Aug '05

01 Aug '05

I have a Windoze machine and a Linux machine running SuSE 8.1 Pro. I am looking to upgrading my SuSE system to 9.3 (I have all of the versions in between in the boxed sets). Both of these machines were originally Wndoze machines from Dell. The Linux box has a CD RW and the Windoze machine has a Samsung 332B CD RW DVD reader device. I want to swap them -- put the DVD reader device on the Linux machine and the CD reader on the Windoze machine. That way I can upgrade my SuSE with the DVDs. Do I have to worry about drivers, or will SuSE have some generic driver that will be able to read from this DVD device? Thanks, Greg Wallace

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Re: [SLE] Proposals for SUSE list managers
by Scott Leighton 31 Jul '05

31 Jul '05

On Sunday 31 July 2005 4:04 pm, MJang wrote: > On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 14:27 -0700, Scott Leighton wrote: > > > > Well, the FAQ is abundantly clear on the subject. It explains the > > complete rationale. > > Dear Scott, > Please reply to the list, that's what it is for, not to me directly. > Please show me where. I've re-read the FAQ again. I see nothing w/r/t > any analysis in comparison to Fedora or Debian lists. And why, pray tell, should SuSE or anyone else feel the need to provide you with an analysis comparing the Fedora or Debian lists to SuSE's list? Your very question is arrogrant. You do understand that list admins get to run their lists however they choose right? > > > As to comparisions with Fedora or Debian > > mail lists, that's apples and oranges given that they all have > > different list administrators and the list administrator gets > > to make these kinds of decisions. > > And on each list, the decision seems to have popular support. What is > different about each community? I think it's more than just the > arbitrary decisions of a list manager. I suspect it's related to the > European bent of the SUSE list membership, but I think that's too > simplistic. I think you are jumping to a wrong conclusion assuming that list decisions are/were made by popular support. While it is certainly likely that SuSE took the opinions of subscribers into account when it made its decisions on how to manage this list, I seriously doubt they put it to a vote. I also think you are reaching to characterize the list admin's decisions as 'arbitary'. The FAQs make it clear that some thought was put behind the decisions that the list admin made regarding this and the other listed subjects. > > I think the reason why people here seem to have trouble answering the > question is that it's more sociological in nature. Yes, a bit OT, but > who better to understand the differences between Linux users than Linux > users? > I don't see where anyone here has any trouble at all answering your question, the trouble seems to be on your end. You simply don't like the answers so you keep harping on the issue. It's real simple, this subject has been visited many many times in the past, the OWNER of the list has made a descision regarding this issue and thats that. Don't like the decision, then go start your own list. Scott > Thanks, > Mike -- POPFile, the OpenSource EMail Classifier http://popfile.sourceforge.net/ Linux 2.6.11.4-21.7-default x86_64 SuSE Linux 9.3 (x86-64)

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