October 2005 - openSUSE Users - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Opensuse download for DVD?
by Ronald Wiplinger 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

How can I make a DVD from the iso CDs ??? bye Ronald Wiplinger

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Re: [SLE] Two processes recording from LINE-IN?
by Adam Vazquez Kb2jpd Internet Mobile w/ Treo 01 Oct '05

01 Oct '05

Check out 'tee-for-two' for another solution using tee without learning more about the sound subsystems. Involves using the command line, using the pipes and using fifos in a unique Linux way: www.debian-administration.org/articles/145/print Adam -----Original Message----- From: "Adam Vazquez Kb2jpd Internet Mobile w/ Treo" <adamvaz(a)earthlink.net> Subj: Re: [SLE] Two processes recording from LINE-IN? Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 4:32 pm Size: 2K To: Jorge Fábregas <fabregasj(a)prtc.net>, suse-linux-e(a)suse.com A lot of the replies are showing a prespective from Windows so I am going to chime in. In the past, you could run several soundcards under MSDOS. With Windows, that kind of stopped. Linux , as a multiuser/multitasking OS, can do multiple recordings provided you investigate all the hardware and software possibilities FIRST. Investigate via google.com: www.google.com/pda?q=Linux+recording++multiple+sound+cards&hl=en&lr=&newwin… and www.linuxgazette.com first. Nothing prevents you from running multiple instances of sox, for example. Linux supports full-duplex soundcards (that allow recording and playback simulteanously) and supports multiple soundcards installed in the system. If you buy a cheap soundcard, you can make it as /dev/dsp2 and most of the packages will accept it. JACK is not overkill as neither of the other audio subsystems. Look and read what you have available and then try it out. You can also investigate as mentioned before one of the more high end cards that turn your Linux box into a recording studio. One of the nice things about those cards are that the analogue circuitry is superior and it recording at professional bitrates. Adam -----Original Message----- From: Jorge Fábregas <fabregasj(a)prtc.net> Subj: [SLE] Two processes recording from LINE-IN? Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 1:28 pm Size: 1K To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Hello all, I've been using my Linux box to record radio shows (the radio is connected to my soundcard's line-in). I basically followed the instructions on the "Linux Radio Timeshift HOWTO" on http://www.osl.iu.edu/~tveldhui/radio/ Right now, I want to record a show that starts about the time another show ends. Basically I'll have a script running with the following line: sox -t ossdsp -w -s -r 44100 -c 1 /dev/dsp -t raw show1.raw and while this is running I want to start another script to record other show: sox -t ossdsp -w -s -r 44100 -c 1 /dev/dsp -t raw show2.raw but I get: sox: Can't open input file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy. It won't let me record unless the first sox process ends. Is it possible to grab the audio on soundcard while other process is accessing it? I have a soundblaster live card which I think can handle it. I can play music from various players (without using any sound daemon like ESD or ARTS). The card handles the mixing by itself so I don't understand why can't I have two process capturing audio at the same time. I guess playing simultaneously and recording simultaneously aren't the same thing :) Thanks, Jorge -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq(a)suse.com -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq(a)suse.com --- message truncated ---

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Re: [SLE] Two processes recording from LINE-IN?
by Adam Vazquez Kb2jpd Internet Mobile w/ Treo 01 Oct '05

01 Oct '05

I found a way to solve the problem using pipes from a Debian website. I hope it is the solution he is looking for. If he cats the output of /dev/dsp and tee off as many outputs as he desires, then he can successfully avoid the exclusivity lock on the /dev/dsp. I have a hardware as well as a software background, so like Linux, there is alway two or more ways to solve the problem. I only recommend the 2nd soundcard because a 20 or 30 dollar soundcard can do a lot more than software bound piping and semaphores which are prone to zombieism or other software glitches. Adam -----Original Message----- From: Bruce Marshall <bmarsh(a)bmarsh.com> Subj: Re: [SLE] Two processes recording from LINE-IN? Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 5:08 pm Size: 1K To: SLE <suse-linux-e(a)suse.com> On Saturday 01 October 2005 04:59 pm, Jorge Fábregas wrote: > On Saturday 01 October 2005 4:31 pm, Adam Vazquez Kb2jpd Internet Mobile w/ > > Treo wrote: > > Nothing prevents you from running multiple instances of sox, for example. > > That's exactly what I want to do, but it seems it's not the way you say. I > 'm trying to use multiple instances of sox to record the same source > (LINE-IN) (just to different files). I'm not interested in multiple sound > cards. I just want to record my LINE-IN with two sox processes but it seems > sox will lock the device. I did the google thing and couldn't find > anything. > > Jorge Isn't this just a timing problem... where your 2nd execution of sox is starting before the first is finished??? If so, and the programs truely are back-to-back, a simple script to check if sox is already running and loop until it quits would do it. Would seem to me that carefully specifying the startup in cron jobs would also do it. -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq(a)suse.com

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AMD64_Mobo_Recommendation
by Paul Ketelaar 01 Oct '05

01 Oct '05

SuSE Technologists, I seek a recommendation for a mobo to suit an AMD64 3500 (venice core). I build a number of high end workstations and servers for clients. Finally I decided to make the jump and build a 64 bit wkstn for my business platform. My key wkstn is a dual AMD 2600 based on a Tyan S2466 this machine runs faultlessy and has done now for three years. The mobo (amd64) I purchased is totally useless, with a string of problems listed on the net that would surely form a list several kilometres long. I finally got th CPU tested and it is ok. I run SLES on my servers and SuSE 9.3 on wkstns. I wait for patiently for the final of SuSE 10, the RC1 I have is very good and runs very fast on my dual AMD wkstn. I seek a recommendation form you all. Pls reply offlist (if possible) to this address 'paulk(a)ketelaar.com.au'. Regards Paul Ketelaar Mackay Queensland Australia

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detecting HD's location for grub
by houghi 01 Oct '05

01 Oct '05

I added the following to my menu.lst: title Install SUSE 10.1 Alpha 1 root (hd3,2) kernel /opensuse/DVD_10.1_A1/boot/loader/linux initrd /opensuse/DVD_10.1_A1/boot/loader/initrd What I want to know what program I must use to know what the correct root is. With me linux (for 10.1A1) is : /media/data/opensuse/DVD_10.1_A1/boot/loader/linux Also: /dev/hdf3 is /media/data Because hdf is the third HD, it is 3 and because hdf3 is the second partition, that is 2, so it makes hd3,2. What command must I use to know this? If that can be done by a simpel command, deciding what to put in your grub is a lot easier for http://www.opensuse.org/Installation_without_CD It works great when you know what to add in grub, but I understand that people might be baffled with what to put where and that not all IDE things count. houghi -- Quote correct (NL) http://www.briachons.org/art/quote/ Zitiere richtig (DE) http://www.afaik.de/usenet/faq/zitieren Quote correctly (EN) http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html

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Re: [SLE] OpenOffice 2.0
by Darryl Gregorash 01 Oct '05

01 Oct '05

On 10/01/2005 09:55 AM, jdd sur free wrote: > Darryl Gregorash wrote: > >>> for example, I got flash player for mozilla. I could copy it to >>> /opt/semonkey and /opt/Firefox, but still don't know where to copy it >>> for Konqueror... >> Why do you need --or want-- to copy anything anywhere? That is why the >> gods invented soft links. > > most plugins don't know about links (some others needs links :-() I don't know what you mean. Plugins don't need to know about links. The proper thing for an application to do is open the link itself, the system will redirect that to the link target. > > Besides, most packages you install know enough >> to test for all these directories, > > flash player wait for _you_ to give him the rep. Then it doesn't matter if the distro is LSB compliant or not. SuSE's flash rpm handles it properly, and mozilla has an add-plugins.sh that finds it -- unless you redirected your plugin to some obscure place on /var. Check /usr/lib/browser-plugins and put all your plugins there, or make links there to the plugins. Then tell your browser about it. Maybe you have to do some work of your own until everyone knows that is where plugins should go, and where a browser should look for them. That isn't SuSE's fault, and it's nobody's fault if you installed your browser or some plugin so some place on /var. > >> anywhere, and if you do, complain to the people who built the package, >> not the people who built your distribution. > > the package builder can't know where _you_ install your app. not > without scanning the entire disk, which is very time consuming Of course they can't know that. Why should you expect them to know? You want the LSB to specify some sort of system registry like <the-OS-from-Redmond> uses? (Perish the thought) > >> >> As for Konqueror, Settings/Configure Konqueror --> Plugins. Which >> directory did you want it to look in? >> > don't gives flash player (at least not on my computer) <sitting down at jd's keyboard> Where -did- you say you put that thing anyway? :)

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Re: [SLE] Two processes recording from LINE-IN?
by Adam Vazquez Kb2jpd Internet Mobile w/ Treo 01 Oct '05

01 Oct '05

A lot of the replies are showing a prespective from Windows so I am going to chime in. In the past, you could run several soundcards under MSDOS. With Windows, that kind of stopped. Linux , as a multiuser/multitasking OS, can do multiple recordings provided you investigate all the hardware and software possibilities FIRST. Investigate via google.com: www.google.com/pda?q=Linux+recording++multiple+sound+cards&hl=en&lr=&newwin… and www.linuxgazette.com first. Nothing prevents you from running multiple instances of sox, for example. Linux supports full-duplex soundcards (that allow recording and playback simulteanously) and supports multiple soundcards installed in the system. If you buy a cheap soundcard, you can make it as /dev/dsp2 and most of the packages will accept it. JACK is not overkill as neither of the other audio subsystems. Look and read what you have available and then try it out. You can also investigate as mentioned before one of the more high end cards that turn your Linux box into a recording studio. One of the nice things about those cards are that the analogue circuitry is superior and it recording at professional bitrates. Adam -----Original Message----- From: Jorge Fábregas <fabregasj(a)prtc.net> Subj: [SLE] Two processes recording from LINE-IN? Date: Sat Oct 1, 2005 1:28 pm Size: 1K To: suse-linux-e(a)suse.com Hello all, I've been using my Linux box to record radio shows (the radio is connected to my soundcard's line-in). I basically followed the instructions on the "Linux Radio Timeshift HOWTO" on http://www.osl.iu.edu/~tveldhui/radio/ Right now, I want to record a show that starts about the time another show ends. Basically I'll have a script running with the following line: sox -t ossdsp -w -s -r 44100 -c 1 /dev/dsp -t raw show1.raw and while this is running I want to start another script to record other show: sox -t ossdsp -w -s -r 44100 -c 1 /dev/dsp -t raw show2.raw but I get: sox: Can't open input file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy. It won't let me record unless the first sox process ends. Is it possible to grab the audio on soundcard while other process is accessing it? I have a soundblaster live card which I think can handle it. I can play music from various players (without using any sound daemon like ESD or ARTS). The card handles the mixing by itself so I don't understand why can't I have two process capturing audio at the same time. I guess playing simultaneously and recording simultaneously aren't the same thing :) Thanks, Jorge -- Check the headers for your unsubscription address For additional commands send e-mail to suse-linux-e-help(a)suse.com Also check the archives at http://lists.suse.com Please read the FAQs: suse-linux-e-faq(a)suse.com

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Blackened GTK menus?!
by Ben Rosenberg 01 Oct '05

01 Oct '05

http://www.whack.org/~ben/blackened.jpg Have any of you experienced this with GTK applications? It happens with all but Firefox. I have absolutely no clue how to fix this. None of my KDE applications do this. I've gone so far as to backup my needed files and remove my whole home directory to see if something was corrupt. I've made sure everything is good in Sax2 as well. It's only happened since the update before last of the Gnome progs and libs. It's REALLY annoying. Note: If I login as root.. everything is fine. -Ben -- Atheism is a non-prophet organization.

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Two processes recording from LINE-IN?
by Jorge Fábregas 01 Oct '05

01 Oct '05

Hello all, I've been using my Linux box to record radio shows (the radio is connected to my soundcard's line-in). I basically followed the instructions on the "Linux Radio Timeshift HOWTO" on http://www.osl.iu.edu/~tveldhui/radio/ Right now, I want to record a show that starts about the time another show ends. Basically I'll have a script running with the following line: sox -t ossdsp -w -s -r 44100 -c 1 /dev/dsp -t raw show1.raw and while this is running I want to start another script to record other show: sox -t ossdsp -w -s -r 44100 -c 1 /dev/dsp -t raw show2.raw but I get: sox: Can't open input file '/dev/dsp': Device or resource busy. It won't let me record unless the first sox process ends. Is it possible to grab the audio on soundcard while other process is accessing it? I have a soundblaster live card which I think can handle it. I can play music from various players (without using any sound daemon like ESD or ARTS). The card handles the mixing by itself so I don't understand why can't I have two process capturing audio at the same time. I guess playing simultaneously and recording simultaneously aren't the same thing :) Thanks, Jorge

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hal.hotplug: could not get mountpoint for sysfs
by Rikard Johnels 01 Oct '05

01 Oct '05

Hi all! Fresh 9.3 install, plugging a SD memorycard into a reader and it doesnt automunt. It worked like a charm in 9.2. I got a /media/usb-<device enumeration> directory and the card was automigically mounted under it. Now i get nothing. This is what is reviled in /var/log/messages as i insert the SDcard; Oct 1 19:59:54 sparhawk kernel: SCSI device sda: 1998848 512-byte hdwr sectors (1023 MB) Oct 1 19:59:54 sparhawk kernel: klogd 1.4.1, ---------- state change ---------- Oct 1 19:59:54 sparhawk kernel: sda: Write Protect is on Oct 1 19:59:54 sparhawk kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 02 00 80 00 Oct 1 19:59:54 sparhawk syslog-ng[2345]: Changing permissions on special file /dev/xconsole Oct 1 19:59:54 sparhawk syslog-ng[2345]: Changing permissions on special file /dev/tty10 Oct 1 19:59:54 sparhawk kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through Oct 1 19:59:54 sparhawk kernel: SCSI device sda: 1998848 512-byte hdwr sectors (1023 MB) Oct 1 19:59:54 sparhawk kernel: sda: Write Protect is on Oct 1 19:59:54 sparhawk kernel: sda: Mode Sense: 02 00 80 00 Oct 1 19:59:54 sparhawk kernel: sda: assuming drive cache: write through Oct 1 19:59:54 sparhawk kernel: sda: sda1 Oct 1 19:59:54 sparhawk hal.hotplug[12892]: could not get mountpoint for sysfs Oct 1 20:00:00 sparhawk /etc/hotplug.d/block/50-hwscan.hotplug[12897]: new block device /block/sda/sda1 Oct 1 20:00:00 sparhawk hal.hotplug[12909]: could not get mountpoint for sysfs Where does hal.hotplug look for settings? I googled and couldnt find anything to enlighten me. Anyone?

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