March 2004 - openSUSE Users (日本語)

はじめまして
by Koyama 11 Mar '04

11 Mar '04

はじめまして、k7-koyama と申します。現在、Vinelinux2.6 を利用しております。 Vineのパッケージバンドルのアプリケーションのライブラリバージョンに、使用したいものがなく、 SUSE に興味を持ちました。早速質問なのですが、SUSE の errata などの表示場所や、ダウンロードの方法が、いまひとつわかりません。 SUSE は、FTP バージョンがありますが、製品を購入し、ライセンスを保持している人しか update パッケージは利用できないのでしょうか? また、もしそうであれば、ライセンスを、毎年更新しない限り update は不可能なのですか? 以上よろしくお願いします。

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xpdf 3.0: SuSE 9.0 のためのアップデート
by Mike FABIAN 11 Mar '04

11 Mar '04

xpdf 3.00 は、CID-keyed フォントを使用して表示できます。 CID-keyed フォントを PostScript 出力に含まれるも可能です。 SuSE 9.0 のためのパッケージはここにあります: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/9.0/i586/xpdf-3.00-33.i586.rpm ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/mfabian/9.0/src/xpdf-3.00-33.src.rpm CID-keyed フォントはここにあります: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.0/suse/noarch/CID-keyed-fonts-Wada-20021… (SuSE CDセットにもあります)。デフォルトとして、和田フォントを PostScript に含まれないように設定しました。普通、Ghostscript が使用できるフォントは和田フォントより綺麗ですので。英語: http://lists.suse.com/archive/m17n/2004-Mar/0002.html -- Mike FABIAN <mfabian(a)suse.de> http://www.suse.de/~mfabian 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。

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kde 3.2.1 リリースアナウンスメント (form KDE Project)
by takezou 09 Mar '04

09 Mar '04

M. Takeyama です。正式なリリースアナウンスメントがありました。＜kde 3.2.1のアナウンスメント＞ http://www.kde.org/announcements/announce-3.2.1.php http://dot.kde.org/1078855423/ ＜changelog(kde 3.2.0 -> kde 3.2.1)　[バグフィックスリスト]＞ http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_2_0_to_3_2_1.php ＜kde 3.2.1 infoのページ＞ http://www.kde.org/info/3.2.1.php ＜KDE 3.2 Compilation Requirements＞ http://www.kde.org/info/requirements/3.2.php Let's try KDE 3.2.1 ! ----- M. Takeyama

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4月に9.1がリリースされるそうですね。
by Satoru Matsumoto 09 Mar '04

09 Mar '04

どうも、松本です。 Subjectにも書きましたが、どうやら4月には SuSE 9.1 がリリースされるようですね。ぷらっとオンラインの先行予約にはまだ出ていませんが、今回も取り扱いはあるのかな…？ライセンスが変更されたことを受けてXFree86の扱いがどうなるか取りざたされているようで、今回のバージョンアップではどのような変更があるのか興味があります。参考： http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=14511 -- □●□ _/_/_/_/ To be Happy! _/_/_/ □□● _/_/_/ Satoru Matsumoto _/_/_/ ●●● _/ helios.reds(a)firemail.de _/

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Re: [tlug] Suse blues-progress?
by paul arenson 07 Mar '04

07 Mar '04

David Nettles on tis list and various people on tlug (Japan) have been trying to advise... Here is my latest discovery, followed by a few people's suggestions: I WROTE THIS TO THE OTHER LIST ---> Well, I have been stumped by the problem of no Kanji input. I was asked to cut and paste, and noted I could not cut and paste a dialogue box message. BUT I WAS ABLE TO COPY DESKTOP VIA GIMP. IT IS ATTACHED, IF SUCH IMAGES ARE ALLOWED. I went back and reviewed some old messages from here and other places, but it seems they might apply to running Linux installed in English. I did a Japanese install and have the same problem. At least one user on TLUG, Lyle, has tried both and in Japanese, seems to be ok with Kanji input. What I HAVE found, is that I can pop in a Knoppix Japanese disk CD and get Japanese with it. So it SEEMS my computer is not incapable.... Dr. Fabian sent me something, but it seems related to ENGLISH systems..... so I will wait on that.... Others here have sent suggestions too, but again, seem to be related to English installations to which I want to add Kanji. -------------------------------------------------------------- Just NOW I found this on the net! THIS SEEMS TO BE EXACTLY THE SAME PROBLEM http://lists.suse.com/archive/m17n/2002-Dec/0008.html "From: ugroh(a)t-online.de (Ulrich Groh) Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 11:24:50 +0100 Message-Id: <200212291124.50430.ugroh(a)t-online.de Subject: [m17n] Canna Server I am running SuSE 8.1. and have the following problem with the canna server: 1. In xemacs I can't use japanese-canna . I always get the message "... Kanji server can't be used" in japanese. I can enter Hiragana but not Kanji. 2. The canna server is running. I stoped and restarted it with the /etc/init.d/canna command. 3. If I use cannstat or cshost I always get the message "Error Disconnected" 4. In my /etc/hosts.canna file I have localhost and unix as entry. How can I find out what I am missing? " ------------------------------------------------- This message suggests there is a subset of people who have troubles with Kanji but not Kana........ Meanwhile....THIS suggestion from someone (refelecting what some others have said) seems worth trying, but I get the feeling it is for English systems. Please try the following: 1. Open konsole 2. Type "kinput2 -canna -xim &" and hit return 3. Type "XMODIFIERS=@im=kinput" and hit return 4. Type "export XMODIFIERS" and hit return 5. Type "LC_CTYPE=ja_JP LANG=en_US kterm -xim &" and hit return This assumes that kinput2 and kterm (Kanji Terminal) are installed. When kterm shows up, you should be able to enter Kanji mode with Shift+Space (or Control-O? I don't know if the defaults are different on SuSE). You may also want to look for im-ja, which is a japanese IME for GTK2, much nicer than kinput2/XIM, but it will only work with GTK2 apps. ------------------------------------ SIMILAR ADVICE WAS FROM THIS PERSON, WITH MY COMMENTS APPENDED: >>>There are two options available to you here: But is this so even if Suse is installed in Japanese and it is supposed to be working? Based on, for examle, Lyle's example? I wonder if this is just one of the idiosyncracies of Linux/Suse, that some things do not work for some people, or if there is something going wrong that will be revealed by my posting the below screen shot or referring to the other eprson who had the same trouble? If there is no choice, then I guess I will haveto look at the below as a solution. >1. Use kinput2-wnn. It's a bitch to start up, because it requires you to specify a file called wnnenvrc each time you start kinput2, but this can be done from .xinitrc anyway. >2. Use uim-anthy or im-ja. Both have a XIM bridge which allows them to work with XIM, and can get by fine with libanthy and no backend server. im-ja can optionally use Canna. Is this something I have to install? >I personally loathe both Canna and Wnn (And all backend servers for that matter), so I went with 2. That sounds good to me, though I first want to understand why it doesn't work as I hoped it would. >Good luck! >-David But I STILL HOPE this message, so similar to my own will lead to some discovery.. http://lists.suse.com/archive/m17n/2002-Dec/0008.html Thanks in advance... paul -- _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Paul Arenson http://tokyoprogressive.org http://japan.indymedia.org paul(a)tokyoprogressive.org _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/

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理解していただくのは困難だと思います
by Hiromitsu Shirakawa 05 Mar '04

05 Mar '04

理解していただくのは困難だと思うのですが．．． platex一つにしてもrpmパッケージはlinuxであろうが，solarisであろうが，windowsであろうが存在しません．英語でももちろんそうです．それが，日本語となると大変です．それに，ノートパソコンでSUSEがデュアルブートでインストールできるかということも教育の現場では選定する最大の条件です．何も知識のない入学生に天下り的にマシンとソフトをあたえて，それから教育するので教育的なマシンとはどれだけ先生が導入に苦労しないかということでしょうね．相手はマニアではないのです．メーカとの交渉ではぎりぎりまでlinuxがデュアルブートでインストールできるか交渉しました．あるメーカの製品はその段階で落ちました．このような場合にはそのメーカのノートパソコンは教育用ではないということになります．白川＠近大

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Re: [suse-linux-ja] SuSE 8.2 Proと日本語とEvolution1.2.3はモジバケです。
by David Nettles 05 Mar '04

05 Mar '04

たかはしさんとこばやしさんに、ありがとうございました。 Ximianからの最新のSUSE8.2のEvolutionをしてみます。この問題はつづければ、 SUSE9.0を他のコンピューターにインスタルしてみます。その後で新しい Evolutionをテストします。テストの後でまんなさんに答えます。 -- David Nettles web: http://www.miteyo.org email: tetsuoni3000(a)yahoo.co.jp

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Novel日本法人の方も見ているのかな
by 坂口たかお 03 Mar '04

03 Mar '04

専らROMの坂口です。　Novel日本法人の方は、このメーリングリスト見ているのでしょうか。もし、見ていれば、要望とか書き込めば製品に反映してくれるでしょうか。　私としては、とりあえずはじめから WIndowsパーテーションの日本語名ファイルやディレクトリーが認識できるように/etc/fstabを設定しておいてもらいたいです。　あとリコーフォントとか入れてもらえるといいかもしれませんが、ここは意見が分かれるところかもしれませんね。

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Help with Suse japanese
by paul arenson 02 Mar '04

02 Mar '04

Hello Suimasen ga. Kaisha no web mail ha Eigo shika arimasen. Sono ue ni, Suse Professional 9.0 (English version) de Nihongo wo tsukitai. Desukeredomo, kanji input ha dekinai......moshikashitara, Nihongo no version wo install to umaku dekiru? Open office de CONTROL O wo oshite mo, nihongo naranai. K-notes ha ok, demo Kanji Server ga nai mitai....hirgana dake. Windows mo Mac mo saishou kara nihongo wo dekiru. Suse ha Chigaimasu? Suse Nihongoban ga sonzai deshitara, motto yoku dekiru? Toku ni, nihongo no input mo, Eigo no menu ga ichiban ii.... Shita no message wo iroiro na hito ni dashimashita...Suse no list mo. Suse no Fabian san ha, watashi no shitsumon ha BASIC dewa nai kara, FREE SUPPORT ga cover dekinai. Zannen. Otaku ja nai kara, zen zen wakaranai. Boku ni totte basic na shitsumon. Doko made kiki ni itte ii to wakarimasen....Desukara kono listo ni mo kikimasu. Sorry the below is in English I am a new user of linux (Suse professional 9.0). I bought this version because of the linux versions, several websites said it was one of a few that did English and japanese and that the YAST feature made it easy to install and download programs without having to learn to use terminal programs. Having been frustrated with Windows, buying a new machine (with a serial ATA drive that Windows 2000 didn't like), and being told that Linux was much more stable, I took the plunge. But I am stuck. Having installed Linux in English and then trying to activate Japanese, I have only managed to get Kana but no Kanji. I decided to install again this time in Japanese(it seems one can just say INSTALL and the old installationis overwritten). ASKING ON VARIOUS LISTS ----------------------- Most recent attempt is here--->they said to try a japanese forum since they did not know. They said i needed a japanese server, but even when I install in japanese I do not get success. big thread... http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=512&hl= People have said that you need to do this and that (make sure you have this program, like canna and that), but I thought if I install in Japanese, it would be automatic. I really wanted it to work without having to "try this and try that". I had hoped for the best of both worlds, like installing in Japanese but getting English menus, like is possible with Windows 2000. That way I could enter the occasional Japanese but have the easier to understand English menus. The last time I installed, even in Japanese, I got only Kana input, and in Office, CONTROL-O did not even allow me to enter Japanese mode.... WHAT I HOPE FOR --------------- (1) Can I get Suse to work? Should I buy a customized Japanese version, assuming such a beast exists. I am now using the one I bought from an Australian company. In addition to the above-mentioned problems, Sometimes I get no mouse cursor in my analog screen but only in my digital one. (Yet if I activate 24 bit color or use my 3D accelerator--GEO FORCE something or other, I do not have the option of using the digital interface, only the analog). (2) Should I install WITHOUT adding additional programs? I just click things that look like I might want them and then get told if there is a conflict and select RESOLVE conflict. But so far, no Kanji entry and the other glitches. (3) Since I want a system that I don't have to become a Linux guru to use--I just want to enjoy myself and get some work done---should I opt for a DIFFERENT distribution? I see that Knoppix is listed as easy and as doing Japanese. It says that it is SLOW to run from the CD, but it is unclear if one can also install from the CD. I like Suse's Yast because i do not have to enter arcane commands. (4) Can I just put a CD or DVD of any good installation and write over it? It seems that I can do that with Suse---that is what I have been doing at least. (I have been tempted to go back to Windows 2000, but have been told it is not easy to get rid of Linux and then go back to another operating system...I never left a partition for Windows.....so unless i throw out my entire hard drive, I think I am stuck with this--or if it is not a problem---just buying another CD of another company's Linux. (5) If this is the wrong forum for these questions, please tell me. I don't want to waste anyone's time. I enetered SUSe in the serach engine and could not find any post. I see some other japanese related forums, and I do not want to spent most of my time thinking about or learning the intricasies of Linux---just want it to work with less trouble than Windows. Thanks in advance ___/___/___/___/___/___/___/___/___/ Paul Arenson paul(a)tokyoprogressive.org TokyoProgressive Editor http://tokyoprogressive.org IndyMedia Japan Editor http://japan.indymedia.org ___/___/___/___/___/___/___/___/

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今後のSUSE LINUXの日本国内での入手経路
by Masaru Imai 01 Mar '04

01 Mar '04

今井です。今後のSUSE LINUXの日本国内での入手がどうなるのか不安だったのでぷらっとホームへ問い合わせていたのですが今日返事が来ました。現段階ではまだ調整中だけれども、旧来の販売実績もあるので今まで通りぷらっとホーム経由でも購入できる様になりそうです。ということなのでNovellの日本法人の動向がどうあれ、購入そのものはそれほど心配する必要はない様です。もうひとつオムロンソフトウェアにWnn7の64bit Versionのリリース予定は無いか聞いてみたら今のところ予定無し。しかしリリース要望が多く寄せられる様であれば検討する様な回答でした。 64bit VersionにWnn7(当然32bit Ver)組み込んだら....。結果としてはサーバーは動いてるけど.....、クライアント系がどうも動いてない.....。実際Wnn7 64bit Versionってどれだけ需要があるんだろ....。少なくとも1個はあるのは確実なんだけど......。 #うーん64bit Ver.の方のメイル送受信が不調になってしまった様だ。 #KMailもMozillaメイラーもThunderbirdもダメみたい....。 #プロバイダのサーバー側からぶった切られる。 #しかたないのでサブマシン(NF7S)の方からメイル送受信.....。 -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 今井優 mail: maimai(a)coral.ocn.ne.jp web: http://www10.ocn.ne.jp/~masimai/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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