Re: [radeonhd] RandR connector names [Poll/Discussion]
Matthias Hopf writes:
radeon names: VGA-0 (on my notebook) DVI-0 LVDS
radeonhd names: VGA_1 (on my notebook) DVI-D_1 PANEL
DVI-I_1/analog (example) DVI-I_1/digital
This usage of "-" and "_" looks ugly, from a non-programmer POV.
If that's common understanding, it could be changed to dash always. The only thing that might be awkward about it is that it is a change.
Why do these names need numbers in them when there is only one of each sort?
I thought I had some logic in place that doesn't add numbers if there is only one. Guess I didn't do it right :-]
Sounds like we will have a change anyway.
Also, I think we have a consensus, that DVI-I and DVI-D don't need to be specifically named that way (DVI should be enough). I still would keep DVI-A, due to the awkwardness of this connector.
So we would get DVI-A(-1) instead of DVI-A_1 before
Please don't use the same separator for the connector type and the enumeration. DVI-A-1 looks awkward to me. If people don't like the '_' I'd suggest to use ':' instead. Like: DVI-A:1
DVI(-1) instead of DVI-D_1 before DVI(-1)/digital instead of DVI-I_1/digital before DVI(-1)/analog instead of DVI-I_1/analog before
I think we also agree on the need of a specific HDMI connector.
Yes.
"LVDS" might be technically correct, but is probably known to much less people than VGA and DVI. "PANEL" is probably better-known, but there could be and even better word?
The laptop monitor is called a panel, I don't know a different word for that...
The term LVDS is rather technical - yet used by all other drivers. Cheers, Egbert. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: radeonhd+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: radeonhd+help@opensuse.org
On Oct 17, 08 19:25:45 +0200, Egbert Eich wrote:
So we would get DVI-A(-1) instead of DVI-A_1 before Please don't use the same separator for the connector type and the enumeration. DVI-A-1 looks awkward to me.
Since _ is alphanumeric :-P and DVI-A is rather uncommon, it would be reasonable to use DVI_A(-1) - given that most of the time the -1 would be skipped anyway. Another alternative would be DVIA(-1). I'd like to use dashes for numbering, that's what all other drivers use, and it also looks most "separatingly".
If people don't like the '_' I'd suggest to use ':' instead. Like: DVI-A:1
For me this groups A:1 together, something we certainly don't want to
indicate. But it's possible.
Matthias
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Matthias Hopf
Matthias Hopf wrote:
I'd like to use dashes for numbering, that's what all other drivers use, and it also looks most "separatingly".
If people don't like the '_' I'd suggest to use ':' instead. Like: DVI-A:1
For me this groups A:1 together, something we certainly don't want to indicate. But it's possible.
Matthias
After considering multiple ways to separate single letters and numbers with single characters, I find they all look misleading in some way. I vote for stripping numbers when unnecessary and keeping the current slash format:
So we would get DVI-A(-1) instead of DVI-A_1 before DVI(-1) instead of DVI-D_1 before DVI(-1)/digital instead of DVI-I_1/digital before DVI(-1)/analog instead of DVI-I_1/analog before
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Matthias Hopf wrote:
On Oct 17, 08 19:25:45 +0200, Egbert Eich wrote:
So we would get DVI-A(-1) instead of DVI-A_1 before Please don't use the same separator for the connector type and the enumeration. DVI-A-1 looks awkward to me.
Since _ is alphanumeric :-P and DVI-A is rather uncommon, it would be reasonable to use DVI_A(-1) - given that most of the time the -1 would be skipped anyway. Another alternative would be DVIA(-1).
Well, the proper connector name is "DVI-A" and "DVI-I" and "DVI-D", right? Well... among DVI-A DVI-I DVI-D DVI-1 DVI-2 DVI-3 DVI-A_1 DVI_2 DVI_3 DVI_A-1 DVI-2 DVI-3 I'd prefer
I'd like to use dashes for numbering, that's what all other drivers use, and it also looks most "separatingly".
How about we use the naming schema "all other drivers use"? For the one potential future special case where someone does use a split DVI-I connector and lets it the card transmit different content over its digital and anlog pins, we would require an xorg.conf option and then just append /analog and /digital to the respective strings, whatever they may look like?
If people don't like the '_' I'd suggest to use ':' instead. Like: DVI-A:1
For me this groups A:1 together, something we certainly don't want to indicate.
I'd like to avoid "A:1" that as well. -- Hans Ulrich Niedermann
On Oct 17, 08 21:37:27 +0200, Hans Ulrich Niedermann wrote:
Well, the proper connector name is "DVI-A" and "DVI-I" and "DVI-D", right? Well... among
DVI-A DVI-I DVI-D
DVI-1 DVI-2 DVI-3
DVI-A_1 DVI_2 DVI_3
DVI_A-1 DVI-2 DVI-3
I'd prefer
Missing preference :-P
I'd like to use dashes for numbering, that's what all other drivers use, and it also looks most "separatingly".
How about we use the naming schema "all other drivers use"?
We had that before - that implies changing to using the connector
instead of the output. We have approximately a 50:50 result about
whether to change to that model or not, so I'm not really pushing for
it.
Also, other drivers tend to underspecify the outputs.
Matthias
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