On 16/05/11 00:12, Helen South wrote:
Well said jdd, - it's really getting a bit silly. One of the problems with lists is that the argument is set in print and archived, and isn't just a late-night moment of raised voices quickly forgotten. Still, any reader with an ounce of sense knows that a few individuals do not represent the entire project, just as a few silly or angry statements don't represent a person.
I do hope it is all archived because the archive then holds all the evidence how it started and what was said. And I am pretty sure it will come in handy at some point (at least to support my own claims).
If anyone wants to take the proposed anti-harassment policy document in a different direction, they are most welcome to write one that covers their points. If you want to write a long and detailed document, please go ahead. An ideal solution might be to have a brief statement as the main page with a clearly visible link to further information for those who want more details.
I agree, it should be simple and short and not look like an attempt to draft a legal document (which isn't possible anyway). For the conference, I would go for something like: "The openSUSE community won't tolerate any harassment or anti-social behaviour at the openSUSE conference. Should you observe such behaviour, do not hesitate to speak up and please inform a member of the organisation team or the openSUSE board. We appreciate that cultural and language differences may cause misunderstandings - the organisation team will therefore review the situation at hand and take appropriate and reasonable action where necessary." This text might not be ideal as it is right now but it's short and easy to understand and sets the scene. It could be clarified (if necessary) in a subsequent document but in general I think some text like the one above is all that is required. The conference should be covered by the guiding principles anyway, and trying to define harassment in its entirety isn't really possible in this context. Well, enough said. Th. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-project+help@opensuse.org