2013/12/16 Jos Poortvliet
On Thursday 12 December 2013 13:11:09 Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Dobar dan,
On 11.12.2013 16:18, Svebor Prstačić wrote:
On Wed, 2013-12-11 at 15:07 +0100, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
On 11.12.2013 13:58, Svebor Prstačić wrote:
We have been thinking about a business track idea for oSC14, but aren't sure whether to do this (and how) or not.
I think you need to define what you mean by "business track" or we're going to discuss this to death again.
Series of business lectures
What sets business lectures apart from normal lectures?
Being boring? Being in the business track? I'd like to point out that while perhaps you ask these questions to get people to think, they have a tendency to be perceived as discouraging and negative. If you happen to care about that, I suggest to either pre-pend the questions with some encouraging remarks ("I like the idea, just have some questions") or ask less obvious things (it is not like we haven't had business tracks before, and so do other events - nobody here can imagine that you don't have a pretty good idea how to answer the question you just asked).
Back on topic, the business track would be a place where we collect business related talks - about deploying Kolab or typo3 for example. Stuff most home users won't find interesting. Just like most business aren't terribly interested in Steam.
And of course topics must be business related too.
What is business related and what isn't?
Kolab is, games are not. Anything in between will be up to whoever volunteers for the CfP. I'd suggest getting somebody from the business side involved - I bet Hans de Raadt would be more than willing to have a look at talk proposals.
And yes - there is overlap, strongly depending on what type of business you'd attract. ISV's would be interested in an OBS talk, small IT companies running servers for their customers would love ownCloud, Drupal and Kolab talks.
I'd leave it up to the CfP committee to figure out the details. Let's avoid bikeshedding, please. The question Svebor had is not about every single possible detail, but if we think it makes sense to have a business track. Do we feel it takes away from the event, do we feel we don't like people who potentially come in a suit and run their own little company, or do we think it is great that there are companies out there trying to make a dime bringing Free Software to their customers and we'd like to give them a chance to meet at our event and talk about what they do.
For the record: I fully support the idea of doing a business track. In general, I think separating the subjects in tracks helps create some clarity and direction. Eg having a programming track (with workshops?) could be cool, too - starting with a beginners' talk or two and going a bit deeper after that, perhaps. And a packaging track, with workshops but also perhaps discussions on how to improve our packaging guidelines or stuff like that...
Henne
Well my concern as it was last year is only one, Lets say we have a business Track, what should we put in the other tracks at the same time? Just to be more clear, can we put a highly interesting talk(meaning that e know it will have a lot of people) or not? Should we put the business track in the main room or not? If one business gives 1k and another one 5k and we also have SUSE, where is the line on what to give and to whom? Between those questions, another million are hidden, I hope you get my point of view. I personal like the idea but I strongly believe that we should do it without "disturbing the force" and risk on getting out the wrong message for oSC. Just my 2 drachmas Kostas -- --- \m/ --- http://opensuse.gr http://amb.opensuse.gr http://www.kde.gr http://warlordfff.tk --- \m/ --- me I am not I --- \m/ --- Time travel is possible, you just need to know the right aliens -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner@opensuse.org