August 2020 - openSUSE Project - openSUSE Mailing Lists

Re: [opensuse-project] Working on Foundation & Governance
by Vinzenz Vietzke 21 Aug '20

21 Aug '20

Hi, Am Donnerstag, 20. August 2020, 18:11:40 CEST schrieb David Mulder: > Not sure who else this effected, but Vinz your last message was caught in > the SUSE spam filter. I had to release it. Maybe it was blocked for others > also? Thanks for pointing out! I'll see if I can tweak stuff on my mail client or the server. > (and yes, I think many folks have been on vacation) Mhm, I'll get back to the topic in a few weeks maybe. Thanks! vinz. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Getting Started with Linux Magazines openSUSE Leap 15.2
by ddemaio 20 Aug '20

20 Aug '20

Hi all, We have received more bundles of Getting Started with Linux Magazines (picture - https://twitter.com/openSUSE/status/1295604607863971840?s=20). If you are interested in having me ship you a bundle (30 issues in each), please let me know. They can be uses for events, university students, classes, etc. Let me know. Have a lot of fun! v/r Doug -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Minutes of openSUSE Board meeting 2020-08-18
by Gerald Pfeifer 20 Aug '20

20 Aug '20

Present: Axel, Gerald, Marina, Vinz Excused: Simon == References to non-public SUSE tools == * Recently Jira and Confluence, for example. * Gerald points out some of those went from being "unknown unknowns" to "known unknowns", so while there's work to do, things are moving towards more transparancy. * AI Gerald to relay to "Close the Leap Gap" meeting on Fridays * status quo is understood, but what's the roadmap? * what workarounds can be put in place? * On a related note Marina is now attending the openSUSE release engineering meetings somewhat regularly. == Foundation == * Vinz prepared a Wiki portal based on original presentation by Axel and input by others. * Mail has gone out on August 7th. * https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-project/2020-08/msg00070.html * Not a lot of reactions, aka mostly silence * Hopefully more due to vacation period than lack of interest? * AI Vinz to follow up on project@ == SUSE Keynote at openSUSE conference == * Doug and Marina discussed, the two of them and Gerald brainstorming and checking out options. == meet2.opensuse.org == * We tried it this meeing, and it worked like a charm. * Big thanks to Marco and the Azubis! Next call: same slot in two weeks = September 1st, 8:00 CEST -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] meet2.opensuse.org testing phase
by lethliel 18 Aug '20

18 Aug '20

Hi, Today I am able to introduce you: https://meet2.opensuse.org which is a bare metal machine with 24 CPUs and 128 GB RAM. It is installed based on the packages provided by the trainees. Our trainees from SUSE are working hard on packaging jitsi for the (open)SUSE distributions and providing a new jitsi instance to the openSUSE community. They made an awesome progress! meet2 will be in testing phase starting Monday until 24.08.2020. If there are no problems we will switch the active service to the new instance (meet2 -> meet). Keep in mind that meet2 is also based on voluntary work. So please use meet2.opensuse.org for your community meetings and report problems to admin(a)opensuse.org The only known issue is the bandwidth which is currently limited to 1 GBit. But this will be solved when the server gets a new 10 Gbit NIC. I would like to thank Dominik Gedon, Enno Gotthold, Leon Schröder, Martin Rey and Quang Tran for their work and dedication with this project. Happy testing and a good and healthy time to all of you. Cheers, Lethliel (Marco) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Hacktoberfest 2020
by Natnael Getahun 18 Aug '20

18 Aug '20

Hi community, Hacktoberfest is coming up. If you're not familiar with it, it is an event that encourages people to make their first contributions to open source projects. It's for developers, designers who make artwork and people can contribute in the form of documentation as well. Community members can are encouraged to help new contributors by guiding them through their first contribution, creating educational content, doing a meetups, etc. I would like to help coordinate the efforts for openSUSE’s presence during Hacktoberfest and need some help from the community members. Is anyone willing to help guide/plan or bring in new members to the various openSUSE-related projects? We can do a meeting or focus on marketing or something? Here is some info about it https://hacktoberfest.digitalocean.com. Best Regards, Natnael Getahun Full-stack developer -- SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH Maxfeldstr. 5 90409 Nürnberg Germany HRB 36809, AG Nürnberg Geschäftsführer: Felix Imendörffer -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Mail server migration August 10
by Per Jessen 18 Aug '20

18 Aug '20

Dear all, next Monday August 10, we plan to migrate email services for "opensuse.org" away from the current SUSE mailservers (mx[12].suse.de] and on to our two new mail servers "mx1.opensuse.org" and "mx2.opensuse.org", which I finished setting up beginning of July. Primary services affected are: - mailing lists - member aliases forwarding Apart from a minimal interruption at the time of switch-over, neither service should really see much effect of the migration, but you never know. The new setup includes spam- and virus filtering, selective greylisting, inbound and outbound TLS support, and an SRS daemon. If you have any questions or concerns, feel free to write to me or to the Heroes list. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (16.9°C) Member, openSUSE Heroes -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Election Campaign Page
by Pierre Böckmann 18 Aug '20

18 Aug '20

Dear All, with a bit of delay I set up a campaign page now at https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Ad_hoc_Board_election_2020_platform_crowby… If you have questions, feel free to reach out and ask! Kind regards Pierre Böckmann -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Ballot is open
by Ish Sookun 17 Aug '20

17 Aug '20

Dear community members, The ballot for the openSUSE Ad-hoc Board Election is open. Your voting credential has been sent to the email address which you registered as your member email alias target. If you did not receive it please contact us on election-officials(a)opensuse.org. This election is being carried to fill one vacant seat on the openSUSE Board. There are two candidates in the election and members are invited to cast their vote for the candidate of their choice. Blank votes are also allowed. Details about the election are published here https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election. If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to ask. Regards, Ish Sookun // On behalf of the Election Officials. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Ad-hoc openSUSE Board Election 2020 - Election (voting) phase
by Ariez Vachha - openSUSE 17 Aug '20

17 Aug '20

Dear community members, Today marks the start of the election (voting) phase of our **Ad-hoc openSUSE Board Election 2020.** as announced here earlier today by Ish Sookun. You should all have received your voting email by now if you have not and are a qualified member then please contact the election officials by emailing election-officials(a)opensuse.org The elections officials have seen traffic on some of the other chat groups, of members still asking why they have received an election email, as they were unaware are of it occurring. Full details can be found at: https://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Board_election You can vote up until 30th August 2020. The final results will be announced and the final results will be announced on 31st August 2020. -- Best Regards, Ariez Vachha ajv(a)opensuse.org On behalf of the Election Officials. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-project+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, email: opensuse-project+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-project] Too many open bugs (Leap 15.2 retro)
by Lubos Kocman 14 Aug '20

14 Aug '20

Hello openSUSE! one of the items raised on the retrospective* was a large number of open bugs, not just for openSUSE Leap 15.2 but for openSUSE Distribution in general. Tracked as https://progress.opensuse.org/issues/70000 . I already had a discussion with Oliver and Antonis on this topic on the Quality Assurance event that took place last Friday in Schweig. I'd like to share with you the idea of a regular "Bug smashing" meetings. (I'd call those "Bug triaging", those meeting will not get bug fixed but just allow to triage them properly, if I understand correctly) These https://meet.opensuse.org meetings would focus on outstanding bugs and respective "problematic components" (e.g. Other or Base system). We'd focus on one Bugzilla component at a time and would go through the results of pre-agreed queries. It could be multiple short (20 mins) sessions per week E.g. "Base system" Bug smashing etc. I don't mind low attendance but having an option to join and raise particular issue is very important to me. Keep in mind that the openSUSE Release Team is supposed to do this "overseeing" anyway. But I think we can be a bit more transparent about it. The idea is that I'd share screen go through the list of bugs, find an agreement on the next steps, and then the person sharing the screen (typically Release Team member) would write an update to the bug. This would then be followed by sending a notification to the bug owner or finding a new bug owner in case of no response. The public and virtual nature of sessions would enable people to join and raise attention to the bug that might be not getting enough attention. The goal should be on processing bugs in a way that we're able to achieve a decent response time and not cause a potential decrease in quality or close bugs that might potentially lead to a data loss. We're not doing this for the sake of better-looking statistics, but to have a more stable distribution. The pre-requisite for this is an agreed policy about how to tackle bugs properly. So we're helping instead of causing harm. The policy should provide answers to the following questions: What is expected to be tracked in Bugzilla and where to track other requests. E.g. the Documentation component is a bit controversial as it contains various types of requests. Criteria for keeping bugs open or closing them. (aka cleanup that helps). E.g. the definition of CLOSED/Insufficient data, do not close issues that lead to data loss. Agreement about setting the priority on issues, who is expected to do so, and what it means to the bug owner be it SUSE Employee or not. There are two ways how to see priority. How much of an issue is it for Given release (e.g. release can't be shipped with open P1 or P0) and how big of a priority is it to the bug owner. We need to find an agreement. Agreement about ownership of bugs. How does the screening team fit in and so on ... Agreement how to track 'seen' bugs P5 vs Confirmed etc. Agreement on who handles regular processing of bugs for what product(s) and what releases/versions. The last one is important as there seems to be a big difference in overseeing issues for the current release and releases in the maintenance phase. Who should oversee maintenance updates is still an open topic at least for SLE. I'd like to find an agreement with the openSUSE Maintenance team and join forces to be more efficient at pre- agreed bug processing. **Let's use https://etherpad.opensuse.org/p/ReleaseEngineering-bug-smashing-ideas-20200… for a brainstorm and revisit document on next the next Release Engineering meeting* on the Wednesday 19th Aug**. More info and meeting details are in the brainstorm document. [0] https://en.opensuse.org/Portal:15.2/Retrospective Best regards openSUSE Release team

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