On 7 August 2010 10:29, Vincent Untz wrote:

Le vendredi 06 août 2010, à 14:10 +0100, Vadym Krevs a écrit :

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Hi.

How come versions of gnome packages in GNOME:/STABLE:/2.30/openSUSE_11.3 are earlier than the ones on the 11.3 dvd? Does this mean that GNOME:/STABLE:/2.30/openSUSE_11.3 is not ready yet?

I guess it's simple the rpm release version, not the upstream version? If yes, then that's just because of the way the packages are built in the build service, I guess.

If there's an upstream version that is earlier in G:S:2.30 than in 11.3, please tell us which :-)

But in general, G:S:2.30 is nearly ready for wide use, there's just a small gdm fix that needs to go in.

Vincent

You are correct - it is the rpm release versions in G:S:2.30 that are earlier than in 11.3. Which means that if you simply add G:S:2.30 repo, then "zypper up" (or yast) won't install anything from it until the rpm release version in G.S.2.30 finally catches up with what was released on the dvd. Also, I thought that G.S.2.30 was supposed to be based on Gnome packages from released 11.3 (i.e. initially seeded with 11.3 packages). Is that not the case? Vadym -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

On 7 August 2010 11:53, Vincent Untz wrote:

Le samedi 07 août 2010, à 11:45 +0100, Vadym Krevs a écrit :

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You are correct - it is the rpm release versions in G:S:2.30 that are earlier than in 11.3. Which means that if you simply add G:S:2.30 repo, then "zypper up" (or yast) won't install anything from it until the rpm release version in G.S.2.30 finally catches up with what was released on the dvd.

It's recommended to do zypper dup when using G:S:2.30, though, so it shouldn't be a big issue. See http://old-en.opensuse.org/GNOME/2.30

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Also, I thought that G.S.2.30 was supposed to be based on Gnome packages from released 11.3 (i.e. initially seeded with 11.3 packages). Is that not the case?

It is, afaik.

Sorry for being dense, but why are there differences in rpm release versions between 11.3 and G.S.2.30 if G.S.2.30 was seeded from the same rpm packages as 11.3? Vadym -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

On 8 August 2010 23:29, Vincent Untz wrote:

Le dimanche 08 août 2010, à 15:38 +0100, Vadym Krevs a écrit :

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On 7 August 2010 11:53, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Le samedi 07 août 2010, à 11:45 +0100, Vadym Krevs a écrit :

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You are correct - it is the rpm release versions in G:S:2.30 that are earlier than in 11.3. Which means that if you simply add G:S:2.30 repo, then "zypper up" (or yast) won't install anything from it until the rpm release version in G.S.2.30 finally catches up with what was released on the dvd.

It's recommended to do zypper dup when using G:S:2.30, though, so it shouldn't be a big issue. See http://old-en.opensuse.org/GNOME/2.30

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Also, I thought that G.S.2.30 was supposed to be based on Gnome packages from released 11.3 (i.e. initially seeded with 11.3 packages). Is that not the case?

It is, afaik.

Sorry for being dense, but why are there differences in rpm release versions between 11.3 and G.S.2.30  if G.S.2.30 was seeded from the same rpm packages as 11.3?

I don't know. Do you have an example we can look at? It'll be easier to check what's happening this way.

Vincent

Ok, here are three examples (but there are many more): http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/STABLE:/2.30/openSUSE_11.3/... http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.3/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/gconf2-2... (more recent) http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/STABLE:/2.30/openSUSE_11.3/... http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.3/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/glib2-2.... (more recent) http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/STABLE:/2.30/openSUSE_11.3/... http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.3/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/gnome-po... (more recent) Vadym -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org

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On 08/09/2010 at 10:30 AM, Vincent Untz wrote: Le lundi 09 août 2010, à 09:23 +0100, Vadym Krevs a écrit : Ok, here are three examples (but there are many more):

Thanks, they all have the same "issue":

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http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/GNOME:/STABLE:/2.30/openSUSE_11.3/... 86_64/gconf2-2.28.1-3.2.x86_64.rpm

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http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.3/repo/oss/suse/x86_64/gconf2-2... 8.1-3.4.x86_64.rpm

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(more recent)

In openSUSE, the rpm version is upstream-release-build, where:

+ upstream is the upstream version + release is the release tag used in the rpm .spec file + build is a number generated by the build service, and that gets upgraded every time a build happens

What happened here is that in G:S:2.30, gconf2 was built only twice by the build service, while for the 11.3 repository, it was built four times. This is because G:S:2.30 was created late, and didn't need a lot of rebuild.

Which actually just means that for an openSUSE 11.3 user there is, as of now, no need yet to enable G:S:2.30 repository. openSUSE 11.3 was shipped with GNOME 2.30 already. The repo only will gain it's use once we go forward to 2.30.1 or 2.30.2 (volunteers? :) ) Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-gnome+help@opensuse.org