* Wolfgang Bauer [08-01-15 06:41]:

Am Freitag, 31. Juli 2015, 00:04:49 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:>

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I have a thread in opensuse-kde discussing the lack of activities or any method of creating an activity on my Tw systems, also another server on 13.1.

As mentioned on the KD mailinglist, for KDE4 (i.e. on 13.1) you need to have "kactivities4" installed. This was only recommended in the past, so you might not have it if you disabled/prevented the installation of recommended packages for some reason.

07:32 Crash: ~ # zypper -v se kactivities Verbosity: 1 Non-option program arguments: 'kactivities' Initializing Target Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Force resolution: No S | Name | Summary | Type --+--------------------------+------------------------------------------------------- i | kactivities5 | KDE Plasma Activities support | package | kactivities5-devel | KDE Plasma Activities support | package | kactivities5-devel-32bit | KDE Plasma Activities support | package | kactivities5-imports | KDE Plasma Activities support | package | libkactivities-devel | Development files and headers for kactivities | package i | libkactivities6 | Development files and headers for kactivities | package | libkactivities6-32bit | Development files and headers for kactivities | package repos are: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/~pat/repos.txt

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I have the activities widget but nothing happens when trying to activitate it.

Might be a graphics driver problem. Try with compositing turned off (systemsettings5->Display and Monitor->Compositor).

Normally have composting off, but tried both ways w/o success.

Does this command list any activities? Your activitymanager might not be reachable for some reason... qdbus org.kde.ActivityManager /ActivityManager/Activities ListActivities

08:05 Crash:~ > qdbus org.kde.ActivityManager /ActivityManager/Activities ListActivities e88f73bb-48a7-4a50-b07d-2e0a71f200b8 881294a1-ef71-490d-acad-b5e2506d6253 7962eb1e-3148-4956-ac6c-3828c6800e6f 44cbe619-dc6c-49c3-a402-4542529df3ad

If that works, you should also be able to create an activity via this: qdbus org.kde.ActivityManager /ActivityManager/Activities AddActivity name_of_my_new_activity

08:05 Crash:~ > qdbus org.kde.ActivityManager /ActivityManager/Activities AddActivity Graphics 7f9d96bc-4050-4d83-9c54-3727ac0d871b Indeed it did, but the widget "Show Activity Manager" does not show anything.

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The "Desktop" menu does not provide for "creating" an activity.

The "Desktop" menu should provide an entry to show the "Activity Manager" which will let you create activities.

"should" but does not :( I created a "new" user and went to ttyX, logged in as "new" user: startx -- :1 Before the splash disappears I get three plasma5 crash notices and a missing sys-tray notice. plasma5 requests restarting but just continues to issue crash notices, never leaving the splash as long as I select "restart application". Closing w/o selecting "restart .." results in a black screen with mouse pointer but no menues or other actions besides a bright blue spot in the upper left hand corner when the mouse pointer is there. appears somthing's amiss :( But I know not what to do. Tried "new" user on a laptop and can access the X display but still no action from "Activity Manager" or meta+Q, with or without composting active. tks -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Am Samstag, 1. August 2015, 09:40:01 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

ps: graphics driver on desktop is nVidia

And is the driver fully working, including GLX/OpenGL? You're problem really sound like broken OpenGL support or something like that. What does "glxinfo | grep render" say? (you might need to install Mesa-demo-x first to get any output) Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Am Samstag, 1. August 2015, 16:23:46 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

* Wolfgang Bauer [08-01-15 13:24]:

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Am Samstag, 1. August 2015, 09:40:01 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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ps: graphics driver on desktop is nVidia

And is the driver fully working, including GLX/OpenGL?

Well, I reinstall it whenever Tw gets large updates or updates to graphic system. I have noticed no display problems.

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You're problem really sound like broken OpenGL support or something like that.

What does "glxinfo | grep render" say? (you might need to install Mesa-demo-x first to get any output)

direct rendering: Yes OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTS 450/PCIe/SSE2

Looks fine. Pity, that would have been a good explanation... Does the "Add Widgets" dialog work? You could try to add the "Activity Bar" plasmoid to your desktop or panel to switch activities. Does that work? Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Am Donnerstag, 6. August 2015, 06:40:55 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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Does the "Add Widgets" dialog work?

No, that is what started the conversation about me not having activities on any of my four Tw boxes, two desktops and two laptops.

The conversation started with not being able to open the "Activities" chooser, no? I asked whether "Add Widgets" works.

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You could try to add the "Activity Bar" plasmoid to your desktop or panel to switch activities. Does that work?

No, it does not. The configuration dialogue will present, but nothing on left-mouse click.

It should show all activities similar to how the task manager shows windows. So does this not show anything? And you should be able to switch by just clicking on one, exactly like you would switch to a different application/window in the task manager. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Am Donnerstag, 6. August 2015, 08:07:58 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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It should show all activities similar to how the task manager shows windows. So does this not show anything?

No, it deos not show anything.

Just to be sure: You did add the "Activity Bar" widget, *not* "Activities", right?

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And you should be able to switch by just clicking on one, exactly like you would switch to a different application/window in the task manager.

Only way so far is by using the qdbus... on cl.

Well, as mentioned already, this proves that kactivitiesmanagerd and Activities in general work. I have no idea at the moment why the activity manager wouldn't show up then, especially if you don't have other visual problems. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Patrick Shanahan [08-06-15 10:14]:

* Wolfgang Bauer [08-06-15 09:44]:

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Am Donnerstag, 6. August 2015, 08:07:58 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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It should show all activities similar to how the task manager shows windows. So does this not show anything?

No, it deos not show anything.

Just to be sure: You did add the "Activity Bar" widget, *not* "Activities", right?

Good question. No, I added the "Activities" widget. I have now added the "Activity Bar" and get the following output when left-clicking: Error loading QML file: file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.activitybar/contents/ui/main.qml:24:1: module "org.kde.activities" is not installed

Maybe this is the problem, I have no "org.kde.activities" file or path according to locate.

ps: from google I find: qdbus org.kde.kglobalaccel /component/plasma_desktop invokeShortcut "manage activities"

which provides: qdbus org.kde.kglobalaccel /component/plasma_desktop invokeShortcut "manage activities"

Maybe this helps?

ps2: another thought, This box began service 2011 March with 11.1 or 11.2 (iirc) and moved to Tw when Greg KH started it and has been constantly updated/upgraded via the process current at that time to 20150802. This progress may have introduced and/or overwritten files contributing to the activites problem. The other systems began as 13.1 to Tw and are also current with 20150802. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Wolfgang Bauer [08-06-15 14:36]:

Am Donnerstag, 6. August 2015, 10:12:31 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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Good question. No, I added the "Activities" widget. I have now added the "Activity Bar" and get the following output when left-clicking: Error loading QML file:

file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.activitybar/contents/ui/m ain.qml:24:1: module "org.kde.activities" is not installed

Maybe this is the problem, I have no "org.kde.activities" file or path according to locate.

I think this might be a possible reason for your problem, yes.

The org.kde.activities QML module is contained in the package kactivities5- imports. So install that package if it is not installed, or reinstall it ("zypper in -f kactivities5-import", or "Update Unconditionally" in YaST) if it is already installed.

Apparently this is only recommended, at least I can uninstall it here in 13.2 without rpm complaining. If it is indeed the reason for your problem, the package dependencies should probably be changed.

That did it :). Wasn't sure. After installing kactivities5-imports, added "Activities Bar" to task bar and it still didn't respond to left-mouse clicks. So figured might need to restart kde, and logged out of the current desktop. But that didn't drop me to a login screen as normally happens, it put me into one of the two activities I have, Deskktop, and Graphics and I was able to switch back and forth using the "Activites Bar", which except for size is as handy as the "Pager" if one can assign "Key Shortcuts". I will make similar changes to my other boxes and advise. Tks much, appreciated. It wasn't a "simple" thing :). Will you advise making kactivities5-import required, or do I need to file a bug report? tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Am Donnerstag, 6. August 2015, 15:27:13 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

Will you advise making kactivities5-import required, or do I need to file a bug report?

The package plasma5-desktop (which contains the ActivityManager) requires kactivities5-import now, so this problem should not be able to occur any more: https://build.opensuse.org/package/rdiff/KDE:Frameworks5/plasma5-desktop?linkrev=base&rev=110 So there's also no need to file a bug report... ;-) Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Am Mittwoch, 16. September 2015, 15:18:22 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

And I really thought you forgot :^)

No, not really. I just was busy with other stuff... ;-) And it didn't have top priority for me: - your problem has been solved - it can be solved by simply installing an additional package, no patch needed (or similar) - normally kactivities5-imports should be installed anyway, as it is recommended by kactivities5 - I have seen no other report of this issue But of course it still was something that better should be fixed... Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Am Samstag, 1. August 2015, 09:29:17 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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If that works, you should also be able to create an activity via this: qdbus org.kde.ActivityManager /ActivityManager/Activities AddActivity name_of_my_new_activity 08:05 Crash:~ > qdbus org.kde.ActivityManager /ActivityManager/Activities AddActivity Graphics 7f9d96bc-4050-4d83-9c54-3727ac0d871b

Indeed it did, but the widget "Show Activity Manager" does not show anything.

So the activity manager itself is working at least.

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The "Desktop" menu does not provide for "creating" an activity.

The "Desktop" menu should provide an entry to show the "Activity Manager" which will let you create activities.

"should" but does not :(

What does that mean? You don't have that entry, or it doesn't open the Activity Manager?

I created a "new" user and went to ttyX, logged in as "new" user:

startx -- :1

When running "startx", the user might not have sufficient permissions to directly access the graphics card (i.e. direct rendering), which might cause crashes even. So login via a display manager, or at least add the user to the "video" group. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Am Samstag, 1. August 2015, 16:26:08 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

* Wolfgang Bauer [08-01-15 13:22]:

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What does that mean? You don't have that entry, or it doesn't open the Activity Manager?

Doesn't open the Activity Manager, on any of my desktops.

Ok. But switching with " qdbus org.kde.ActivityManager /ActivityManager/Activities SetCurrentActivity 7f9d96bc-4050-4d83-9c54-3727ac0d871b" (or similar) works I suppose? And, as I asked in my other mail, does the "Add Widgets" dialog work? I think that uses the same mechanisms to open.

Added "new" user to video group and now the splash screen clears but the display is quite garbled, mostly very large text and plasma5 crash notices still appear but the distortion renders them unusable.

Hm, there might be other permission problems as well. Can you try using a display manager as a test? Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Patrick Shanahan [08-06-15 06:58]:

* Wolfgang Bauer [08-06-15 06:34]: [...]

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Hm, there might be other permission problems as well. Can you try using a display manager as a test?

I am ignorant, but will try if you can explain how.

Ah, maybe I understand. Logged out of desktop and restarted graphical display. Logged in as new user. Display looked wrong, so logged out. Reinstalled nvidia driver Logged in as new user and display is correct. Activities still won't display from desktop drop-down menu. Added "activities" widget, no action on left-mouse click. Still able to configure. tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Wolfgang Bauer [08-06-15 07:30]:

Am Donnerstag, 6. August 2015, 06:57:31 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:

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trying: qdbus org.kde.ActivityManager /ActivityManager/Activities 759ca295-0cac-459a-b17a-800f5776d6aa Method name '759ca295-0cac-459a-b17a-800f5776d6aa' is not a valid member name

You mistakenly left out the "SetCurrentActivity". qdbus org.kde.ActivityManager /ActivityManager/Activities SetCurrentActivity 7f9d96bc-4050-4d83-9c54-3727ac0d871b

Tks, got my regular desktop back.

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And, as I asked in my other mail, does the "Add Widgets" dialog work? I think that uses the same mechanisms to open.

No, configure is available but left-mouse gives nothing.

What "configure" is available?

I can add widgets. I added the "activities" widget, but it provides no action, nothing on lef-click.

I meant right-click on the desktop and choose "Add Widget...". Does the widget chooser appear or not?

yes,

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Can you try using a display manager as a test?

I am ignorant, but will try if you can explain how.

"init 5" or "systemctl start display-manager".

Yes, I did this with "new" user, but still nothing from activities widget or menu. tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org