On 18.10.2017 10:25, Luca Beltrame wrote:
Il giorno Tue, 17 Oct 2017 19:53:28 +0500 Sergey Kondakov
ha scritto: Well, if corporate officials are so keen on breaking their distro just for the sake of some solidarity with Gnome/KDE/FD madmen, maybe
It doesn't make sense. SLE (the one which should be ruled by "corporate officials" according to your questionable statement) accepted the patch. So this policy, which can be debatable if you may (but not with this tone), is set by people as part of their community involvement, not by corporate overlords.
Then this "final decision" makes even less sense. It's like someone just wants to be an asshole to whole userbase. How the hell it's a random user's responsibility to single-handedly fix core functionality _and_ deal with upstream while these so called "maintainers", "teams" and paid project leader himself comfortably sit with each others' thumbs up their assess ? First take (if you too irresponsible to even find/make it yourself) the fix in your "product" and then deal with upstream yourselves, you useless pricks ! Especially if breakage comes from an employee of your competitor. Although, doesn't *SUSE now belongs to HP and that's where Keith Packard ( https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23705#c6 ) works ? I guess breaking X11 is just in fashion now, along with ugly monochrome icons and general removal of decades-old functionality. How long before filesystem tree structure is deemed "obsolete", like it's Android or year 1967 ? Graphical interface always was an afterthought in FOSS since it's not part of clusters and supercomputers but software vendors for these do try to sell "workstation" licenses and support contracts. And these "workstations" use Gnome as officially supported DE. But that kind of "support" is beyond ridiculous at this point, it's cluelessly irresponsible. Things like that is why people shell out the big bucks to pay for Apple products. It's not even an issue of money or manpower.
Or maybe it's time to switch distro entirely. They already ditched live installer, so, I wouldn't be able to reliably do new TW installs
If you need to rant, get your facts straight at least. Live images (at least the KDE software ones, which I'm more familiar with) have a live installer, and it's even being tested.
Really ? And where can I install that installer for _my_ live kiwi-built images ? Because what I see is https://build.opensuse.org/request/show/404819