Brian, On Fri, 2017-07-21 at 17:07 -0400, Brian K. White wrote:
How does one modify the behavior of a unit file at emergency-console time? I don't mean merely edit the unit file, I mean make it do something that systemd doesn't allow for. I can do that with an init script, because the init binary itself, which I can't see into or modify at run-time, does very little, exactly for that reason.
I'm eagerly awaiting your submissions of a different init system (can be sysV if you like) incl. *full* integration into the system, as a replacement for systemd. Maybe you wish to switch to BSD? I hear they did not switch to systemd and keep on implementing shims, so they don't have to perform the move. Until that day, PLEASE PLEASE: stop this thread and let everybody get on with their lifes. Everybody can wish for technical changes, but somebody has to do them. Apparenlty the people currently developing the distro do not have the issues you face with systemd - which does not mean your issues are not real, but nevertheless, unless you step up and get the work done (by yourself or by motivating somebody to do it, but this please OFF THIS LIST!), will not change the situation
How does one read the binary dadabase journal with only sh to work with? I can do that with the text syslog.
One doesn't - unless one configures it to forward to syslog-ng and/or over a network. Otherwise one uses journalctl to inspec the log files (with the various filter modifiers, but you know that)
It's simply a lie to say I don't have a valid argument based of technical grounds. Rather it is the other way around, no one is bothering to respond to the technical argument. I say, it's because it's a real problem that they don't have an answer to. Well yes, exactly. That's the problem.
Great, you have an argument for a change - so go forth and implement it. Don't ASK for other volunteers to implement what YOU want. This is open source, people implement what they feel makes sense together with their peers. Nobody is 'just going to do the variant you want' - but you are free to do so and submit it as alternatives. Nobody claims systemd solves all issues, but it certainly solved some, at the cost of some different administrative interfaces. So,once and for all, please, stop this thread. I read enough of this nonsense in the last two days and really would like to see discussion about moving tumbleweed forward here, without running in circles and discussing the same fairy tales over and over. Cheers, Dominique