Stephan Kulow schrieb:
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On 06.05.2015 13:45, Robert Kaiser wrote:
Raymond Wooninck schrieb:
And about which KDE team are we actually talking about ??
I realize I didn't answer that. I'm pretty sure all the issues are caused in actual KDE development, the openSUSE packaging team is probably not involved in those. That said, the packaging is what gets me upset right now, as it's a "take it or die" proposition right now on TW, whereas I'd like to wait with upgrading just a little while, so I would have liked it much better to have the KDE4 packages around just for, say, the time until Plasma 5.4 is available, so people don't need to
And then 5.5 and then 5.6, and then ...
Yes, ridicule me, right, that's how one deals with users - at least when they want to get rid of them.
Do I look forward to switch desktops? Not exactly. Do I accept the decision of the KDE team to require it? Yes, absolutely. I had my chances.
Upstream KDE moved on and so should we.
If you want Firefox quality to suffer, you can force me to upgrade to Plasma 5 today. I for one can't, as both ma job and my passion are to ensure that Firefox releases are of the best quality we can deliver. Being able to see when people ping me on IRC and not needing to waste time every day to re-arrange windows on my desktops or even reconstruct my Konsole tabs is substantial for me to do that job. If Tumbleweed can't provide that, it might be the wrong choice, but that makes me sad as so far it was the right choice and I've grown to like both openSUSE and KDE very much (otherwise I wouldn't passionately discuss in this thread, I would have just left and moved on to a different setup, it's not like either TW or KDE would be the only choices out there - and yes, I know that kind of environment well as "our" Firefox has fierce commercial competition and it's easy to switch in either direction). For now, I'll just need to hold off on doing any updates. If I can't safely update for a while without harming my productivity, I'll need to take the time and consider alternative options. I just was hoping there would be a better way forward than those options. KaiRo -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org