On Apr 13, 2017, at 9:43 AM, Richard Brown
wrote: On 13 April 2017 at 15:29, Neal Gompa
wrote: On Thu, Apr 13, 2017 at 9:05 AM, Jan Engelhardt
wrote: On Thursday 2017-04-13 14:53, Farhad Mohammadi Majd wrote:
Hello, most Linux distributions are using GNOME by default, including:
Fedora, Debian, Ubuntu starting with v18.04, RHEL and most of it's derivatives, and even SUSE Linux enterprise; so why openSUSE is using KDE by default?
Why not? Why does everyone have to use GNOME? If your argument carried, we should all be using Windows, not GNOME.
GNOME is more stable, has better support for Wayland and is extremely beautiful.
That's in the eye of the beholder.
Is not GNOME more secure than KDE even?
Papers or it didn't happen.
In many ways, SUSE Linux Enterprise is the oddball here. The switch to GNOME occurred during that point in time where Novell didn't particularly care about SLE, and they had acquired Ximian, who invested quite heavily into the GNOME ecosystem (in part because Miguel de Icaza, who ran Ximian, helped create GNOME).
If anything, I'm more surprised that SUSE Linux Enterprise didn't switch back...
I disagree. I think GNOME makes the better sense for an Enterprise distributions
I would disagree as well. XFCE would be way better for SLES, and very likely SLED too. ...
The REALLY short version of my opinion is:
I do not think the upstream KDE project is positioned, structured, and responsive in a way that makes sense for an Enterprise distribution.
I also think that the current offerings of the KDE project are not of sufficient quality to justify being the default in any community distribution, not even openSUSE.
Neither of my above opinions should be read imply any sort of negativity towards OUR KDE team. I have a very, very, very high level of respect, admiration, amazement, and more for our openSUSE KDE team.
Their exceptional efforts despite the hurdles in-front of them do not subtract from my opinion that KDE upstream makes things harder than necessary to live with them.
WOW, that was some confusing wording. Are they unresponsive and lack structure or are they amazing? OUR KDE == Part of the upstream KDE, I’d hope. Personally, I hated KDE because it was all about gears, squares and odd bizarro shapes. [1] And GNOME is ugly too. The entire thing needs to be dropped in a ditch. Yes, we need one and to focus on one to ensure it works fine. GNOME nor KDE are it for me on the Enterprise side… For openSUSE, I’d like to see a desktop without the wobbly graphics and the magic that once was cool and that now is just stupid, and a desktop that is well documented (which is lacking for all Distributions) [1] https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZHTfdKAkLLw/Um1xNgXcmFI/AAAAAAAAEpI/RjdZH...