Nelson Marques wrote:
2012/6/15 Per Jessen
: Nelson Marques wrote:
I assume the same is true when it comes to internet speed and bandwidth caps and usb thumb drives. Saying "8G drives are $6 is actually kind of gross. That means, all those 4G drives you already own are what? Throw them away even though you paid $30 for them? Just gross.
You will never be able to provide a out-of-the-box solution for every single consumer of openSUSE; You go for the majority... and so far in countries like India, Brazil and others, optical media still plays a major role where you don't have internet access. So nuking away 9% storage that is available on optical media (either you use it or not) just sounds a bit harsh for the sole purpose of allowing 4Gb sticks...
Well, I also payed almost 500€'s for my graphics adapter a few years ago... Now it's pretty much obsolete... Yeah, it's gross to throw it away now and pay 500€'s more for a new one which can rule on CRISIS ;) But sure... that's how it works... things get obsoleted. Deal with it.
Yeah, of course we have to, but we also have to accept that just because something appears to be obsolete in some places, it isn't in others.
So you are basically agreeing with me... We shouldn't drop 9% of DVD storage in images because DVD's are far from obsolete in many places ?
I thought the topic was CDs, but either way, we should stick to those media as long as they are in use in some places where we expect to have users.
Somebody today even mentioned booting from floppies, which is a technology that is obsolete to most people, yet the harddisk manufacturers remain glued to them for diagnostics and the motherobard ditto for BIOS upgrades.
On the Desktop world all the boards I have from the last 5/6 years do support flashing from the operating system (if windows), if not windows it's not really that hard to make a bootable USB stick with FreeDOS and get it flashed.
Yes, from Windows there's usually a separate utility, I also don't have a problem with Proliant servers (HP Smart-Start CD), but otherwise it's essentially back to DOS on floppies (even if you fiddle it to boot from stick or CD).
As far as I'm concerned, xDSL is way obsolete
xDSL is probably not die so easilly because most countries already have a copper wired infra-structure deployed for years, which is far cheaper than installing phiber for example. Furthermore, you have to consider that operators do give a damn about population density; There is no country in the world than has full coverage on phiber ;)
I was very careful saying "as far as I'm concerned", as my Gemeinde has deployed fibre to all households. Of course xDSL is not obsolete elsewhere, far from it. I was trying to say that "obsolete" is often in the eyes of the beholder, and that we therefore need to look a little farther. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (21.1°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org