On 11/05/2013 03:37 PM, C wrote:
To be on topic again: I am against changing the default. The _number_one_ question I'm asked by everyone... and I do mean everyone that I help install openSUSE is "Why is the stupid software installer always closing?" When I tell them why, and show them how to fix it, they all comment on how dumb this default is for the average user.... along with the question "How is ANYONE supposed to find that
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Thomas Leineweber wrote: option to set in the sysconfig?"
We've discussed this here in the past, and it always came down to a small group of highly experienced users who like the backwards setting as default, and a lot of inexperienced users who can't figure out why the software installer is broken by default. The small group of experienced users (the people who know how to set it to Exit) seem to win out each time... when they are the very one who are knowledgeable enough to know how to set YaST to behave in strange ways.
BTW, are you talking about all the Yast configuration modules or just Software Management? Because setting the sysconfig entry would only change Software Management, the rest of Yast always closes and will always close - that's, IMO, why Software Management does the same by default. Changing all the Yast modules to read and use the sysconfig entry is no go as there's, in fact, nobody who would be able to change them. That's too much work. Additionally, right now, most of the Yast modules have either [OK] or even [Finish] button to save settings and CLOSE the module. There's usually no [Apply] button (except Storage?). Having [OK] button to save and close a configuration dialog is similar to Windows - at least how I remember Windows :) Please make clear what you want to achieve and why. As stated before: Yast should not set the default but the product itself, according to my running system /etc/sysconfig/yast2 is not owned by any package. At the end, some sane default has to be set globally and someone has to decide. This is openSUSE, so you might try voting, for instance. I will not tell you what is good and what is wrong, although I'm personally used to closing at the end, I don't even think about changing it. And BTW2: I prefer using zypper :) in these days, it's faster. -- Lukas Ocilka, Cloud & Systems Management Department SUSE LINUX s.r.o., Praha -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org