February 2002 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

createusers and SuSE 7.3
by Phil Driscoll 19 Feb '02

19 Feb '02

Hi I've been using the excellent createusers from www.lfsp.org to create users and set samba passwords on our Linux box. It does exactly what it says on the tin and all works well. However, the users don't appear in the Yast 2 user administration tool. Is there some SuSE script I need to run to get them into the list, or is there another file somewhere I need to keep up to date with new users? Cheers -- Phil Driscoll

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replacement for sendmail
by James & Cybèle 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

Having given up for now on sendmail (still can't get it to download from external mail site ) I wanted a replacement. EXIM has been suggested before on this list. Good idea? James Carter South Lee School

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Plans for a Linux distro
by Mike Elliott 18 Feb '02

18 Feb '02

Came across this over the weekend and thought it might be of interest. http://www.bluelinux.org/ Mike Elliott IT System Eng. James Allen's Girls' School (Registered Charity Number 312750) East Dulwich Grove London SE22 8TE Telephone: +44 (0) 20 8693 1181 Fax: +44 (0) 20 8693 7842 Web site: http://www.jags.org.uk/ This e-mail is for the exclusive and confidential use of the addressee. Any other distribution, use or reproduction without our prior consent is unauthorised and strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by telephone immediately. No engagements are entered into by the School except by a letter or fax bearing an authorised employee's or governor's signature. -----Original Message----- From: phil(a)palm.hands.com [mailto:phil@palm.hands.com]On Behalf Of Philip Hands Sent: 16 February 2002 12:22 To: Chris Howells Cc: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Plans for a Linux distro Chris Howells <chrish(a)gmx.co.uk> writes: ... > THanks for all the other points, I'll bear them in mind if I ever decide to > create the thing ;) Just came across this, which would probably be of use, as well as more general interest around here: http://www.schoolforge.net/ Cheers, Phil. -- Say no to software patents! http://petition.eurolinux.org/ |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com

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Re: Silly Question/Task/User Switching
by Paul Munro 16 Feb '02

16 Feb '02

Thanks to all who have replied. I've tried a few using redmond Linux (Lycoris..much better namer) and some worked, some didn't. For example, the ALT-F2 method, then "Run As" with the associative command wanted (in this case KMail) brought up nothing? The mthod given whereby you use "xhost +localhost" etc went OK for GIMP, but I had a DCOP error for Kmail (which is what we're trying to get running in reality). The other method suggested was "su -l", but this didn't help either. I haven't yet tried running the change form "X Display :0 to :1" etc., so that may be what I'm looking for. We're in the situation where I'm trying to let my wife check her business email address through her own KMail account, via her own Linux account but whilst in my account and on my desktop. In Windows XP if I were, say, running IE6 and checking my email through OE, my Wife could "Switch User", log in to her account graphically and check her mail whilst my processes are left unscathed. When she logs out and "Switches User" again, I'm back where I was with IE6 running and OE checking mail or whatever--just as if she had never logged out or changed user. I'm not sure if I'd like the idea of having to have an extra X running at the moment (on Lycoris anyway) since even with 448MB RAM Redmond is being quite a hog and using 200-odd MB of swap space as it is, and it's showing! Anyway, any other ideas would be welcomed but thanks again to you experts..appreciate your help greatly!! Paul (tired after Saturday shopping....)

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Re: Silly Question
by Paul Munro 16 Feb '02

16 Feb '02

Yep- thanks Simon. I knew that you could change user from the command line--I do it often for "root" of course (dumb me). Is there a way then of doing it XP style--where you can actually have your desktop (ie graphically) without logging out? Thanks again! Paul

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Configuring SendMail to route all mail to one SMTP server?
by Administrator 16 Feb '02

16 Feb '02

We're using a Cobalt Qube as an intranet server. I've installed a CGI script to use SendMail to send email to our administrator. The perl script seems to work perfectly, but I need all mail to be forwarded to our single SMTP server. Is there any easy way to configure SendMail to only route all mail to one SMTP server? Thanks in advance! Dug Stokes

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Fwd: Re: [Xwinx-general] Running Windows apps on a X desktop
by Chris Howells 16 Feb '02

16 Feb '02

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 FYI, a bit of information about the discussion I had with a XWinX developer. - ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Re: [Xwinx-general] Running Windows apps on a X desktop Date: 09 Feb 2002 12:52:43 +1100 From: Kim Saunders <kim.saunders(a)mercuryit.com.au> To: Chris Howells <chrish(a)gmx.co.uk> > That sounds excellent. I'm just wondering a few things though. Would it > work with any application? Or would support for specific applications need > to be hard-coded into XWinX? If it were to happen at all (and that's a not-insignificant if), then it would happen in such a way that it would work with all apps. Some would no doubt work better than others, and some that do tricky things (like faking transparent areas in their windows, faking non-rectangular windows, etc) might not work so well. So, it would be implemented in one way for all apps, but that isn't to say that all apps would work equally well. > Also, with XWinX, is there any support for running applications under > different user names, so that it becomes possible to share a home directory > with the Linux and Windows box? At this stage, no. Recent versions of NT do obiosly have the capability to have multiple users running apps concurrently, as with Windows NT 4.0 Terminal Server Edition, and Terminal Services in Windows 2000. > "We tried a few methods to do this and I at least gave up. To me, the > problem seems to be rooted in making Windows multi-user. While transmitting > individual windows may not be a gigantic problem, making more than one > interactive, especially with multiple people using it _is_ a hard problem. > If you just want to transmit a single window to a single desktop, that > isn't quite as challenging. There might also be licensing problems in > transmitting the individual applications." This is definately correct, having multiple users have individual apps published off one desktop is unlikely to work well. It would probably work OK for one remote user using one or maybe more apps. It is *possible* that at some point, XWinX could be coded to hook into the Terminal Services stuff in Windows so as to do proper, separate sessions on their own desktops, as with Terminal Services/Citrix. Realistically, this is unlikely to happen with XWinX happening as the rather low-ley project it currently is, if someone were to hire someone to look into implementing this, it's probably quite possible to do. KimS - ------------------------------------------------------- - -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris(a)chrishowells.co.uk, howells(a)kde.org Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP key: http://chrishowells.co.uk/pgp.txt KDE: http://www.koffice.org, http://edu.kde.org, http://usability.kde.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8bl/CF8Iu1zN5WiwRAnJNAJ9Cit+bz0vAGoC2q+u4eId/B9JYTACcDfxH MzpETTsdOWcegruoa+4r7Nc= =52Dt -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Schools Linux distro
by Bruce Miller 16 Feb '02

16 Feb '02

I have been experimenting with a copy of Mandrake that I downloaded from their site a couple of weeks ago. When you install, it gives you a dozen options - network server, network client, games machine, office machine etc etc. I can't say that the server client set-up that I am running on a pair of old K6's is doing that well. I like the potential idea and haven't given up yet. The Sun website is keen to tell us that are releasing Gnome ver 2 and Star Office ver 6 in the Spring. I think Chris's idea is excellent and been toying with the idea of approaching Mandrake about similar myself, anyway. I don't have any experience of Red Hat but they seem to have a good record for corporate support. What are Suse thinking Roger? Not being too negative though, I think, we will probably look to be installing XP because of the number of existing Windows based licences that we have and the resident level of staff training that we possess throughout. I include in this, all the staff nervously working through their NOF courses on their new machines that their spent hard earnt cash upon as well as our gap filling KS3 part timers. Additionally, There are quite a few killer apps that I don't think we could live without and quite a few departments have invested large amounts of budget into resource CD's and windows based curriculum support software. We have been using XP on standalones for a while now. It represents a big move forward and so far is a very solid platform. I have reservations too, about Sun Microsystems making a monoploly of my network and taking over where Microsoft left off either. I wouldn't want to invest curriculum development and good time into possibly buggy and soley office based moves forwards either. Now, start to resist the urge to flame me at this point, please. I am on your side, really. I would love for Linux to succeed at a school level but I don't mind paying Bill Gates if it makes my life easier. If I sweat and work against the flow, upset staff and departments, all I will get for showing the LEA and the Head that we can survive on less money is a budget reduction. Not much incentive really, is it. Pay a fair day's wage for a fair day's work and we might find some people prepared to get Linux moving. Chris, you have already said that you are not going to work full time on this. Is anyone? Will a slick system arrive in time for me not to install XP. I have my doubts. If I can help in a small way, though, I am happy to help you.

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RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] X based Windows app. server
by Grainge, Derek 16 Feb '02

16 Feb '02

AFAIK xwinx is a single user system. You can't run multiple sessions. Ditto VNC. Therefore neither will allow multiple Linux workstations to access a shared WIndows CD ? > -----Original Message----- > From: Michael Brown [mailto:mbrown@fensystems.co.uk] > Sent: 07 February 2002 01:26 > To: Schools List > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] X based Windows app. server > > > On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Roger Whittaker wrote: > > There is a thing called xwinx, which might be what you're > looking for. > > Thanks, Roger - I hadn't come across that one before! > > Another way to do it is to use rdesktop and NT4 Terminal Server (or > Win2000 Terminal Services). I have found it easy to use > rdesktop to log > in to a Win2000 server some 50 miles away, across the > Internet and with > 512K connections at each end. It will certainly work with > the bandwidth > available in a LAN. > > Michael > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-unsubscribe(a)suse.com > For additional commands, e-mail: suse-linux-uk-schools-help(a)suse.com > -- ******************************************************************************** All mail sent and received may be examined to prevent transmission of unacceptable material. Wellington College does not accept responsibility for email contents. Problems to postmaster(a)wellington-college.berks.sch.uk. Website: http://www.wellington-college.berks.sch.uk ********************************************************************************

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auto FTP or something easier
by James & Cybèle 16 Feb '02

16 Feb '02

A while ago I asked about a proble I had auto sending images from a win98 webcam using FTP throught my Linux server to the web. Despite attempts with different software I had no success. I can FTP to the server so I suppose the solution is to then auto send files from the server. Can someone suggest how I might do this. Should I automate the server FTP in some way or is there another way to regularly push a file to an external ftp address? thanks James C

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