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by Chris Heaton 16 Jan '01

16 Jan '01

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Schools Admin Software (BETT Comments)
by Alan Harris 16 Jan '01

16 Jan '01

Hi all, Looking at this debate with great interest - I'd love to develop a SIM's alternative using open source software. I've done some work using Postgres on an ancient 486DX/100 running under SuSE 6.4 which worked nicely. I'd love to go further but have run into the following problems (not software related) :- Nobody wants to use a locally developed solution because they don't understand it No Support. The 'If you've developed it and you leave we're cream-krackered' worry. The problems are not related to the inability of the software or the programmers to carry out the task but to a percieved lack of support - while I can operate quite happily from this list not many others can. Usually teachers don't want to know anything about systems other than Microsoft (though I'm changing that with Linux and Mac OS!) - I had one hell of a job convincing our staff to use Lotus Smartsuite rather than MS Office despite Lotus' advantages! If we want to develop a SIMS/Key Solutions 'look alike' I'm happy to throw my lot into the fray with any other interested parties BUT we will need to overcome the above perceived problems AND should spend some time asking School Admin Staff what they want from such a system (as they are the ones who usually end up managing the software anyway!). My interest lies in using Postgres and Perl, however most of the avilable information refers to MYSQL and PHP. A school admin system should ideally be able to be operated via the command line, a text interface of some kind (hence Perl) and a web browser based interface (using PHP / Perl CGI). I like Postgres for two reasons - it has transaction processing and stored procedures, it's also relatively easy to administer. If we're going to do this though, let's operate to some sort of agreed standard for describing the database and other software associated with it - I try(???) to work to SSADM V4 but don't always succeed/ Anyway, just a few thoughts for you - if anybodys interested I'll try to get my rough notes into some sort of order and post it. Alan ----------------------------------------------------- Alan Harris Network Manager Bryngwyn School Tel : 01554 750661 Fax : 01554 758255 E-mail: alanh(a)bryngwyn.carmarthen.sch ----------------------------------------------------- Notes: 1. The contents of this email may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown purposes! Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000. 2. The opinions expressed in this email are personal and may not be shared by Bryngwyn School. -----------------------------------------------------

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Router NAT IP addresses
by James H. Carter & Cybèle de Jong 15 Jan '01

15 Jan '01

Hi all Having had a system of sorts running with an internal ISDN card, decided to try the router approach. Am getting confused about what IP addresses to assign where ( at least I think that is the problem) IFCONFIG shows both eth0 (the LAN) and eth1. It shows eth0 as 192.168.1.2 as expected. It shows eth1 as 192.168.1.1 (LAN side of the card?) although I'm not sure about this because of the notes in the INternet Server black book. The router has been set up correctly (I think). I am able to use the analogue phone port in and out. I can ping both cards from the Server or from Samba clients...but can't ping the world....have done route add default gw 192.168.1.1 (is that right?)..........What else ???needs doing.???? James Carter IT coordinator South Lee School

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] firewall
by Azrael Angel Of Death 15 Jan '01

15 Jan '01

>From: Simon Kelsall <simon(a)kelsall.net> >To: "Azrael Angel Of Death" <psuedo_azrael(a)hotmail.com> >CC: suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com >Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] firewall >Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:23:35 +0000 > >On Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:01:45 , you wrote: > >> My proposal to the list is: > >> If anyone else needs a firewall I'll pass on any useful details I come > >> accross, and if anyone else has any or comes accross any would they >pass > >> them on to me? > >You should also try this site: http://lrp.steinkuehler.net/ >Good instructions and the image files let you create the disks under >Windows. > >I got the EigerStein version up and running in under 30 minutes. > >As it only needs a floppy it avoids your problems installing to the >hard disk. > >Simon. > >p.s Where in the country are you ? Looking at the site.. and I am in the UK Aren't we all? (refering to this bieng a uk-schools mailing list :) ) --Azrael _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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firewall
by Azrael Angel Of Death 15 Jan '01

15 Jan '01

Greetings to the list. Can I start by saying how much fun I had at BETT!! I can't believe how many stands had sweets, chocolate, crisps, drinks, mints.. etc I'm sure I put on several pounds! Did I mention lollies? Ooo yummy... *coughs* Oh yeah.. I liked the computer stuff too... Anyway... I wanna make a firewall and I'm guessing there might be people on the list who (1) want one too, (2) already have one. I've tried SmoothWall (www.smoothwall.org) with no success.. it's mainly a dialup firewall anyway.. but some claim success with proper networks.. (2 NICS). Anyway SmoothWall doesn't work on the machine I have available.. so I'm going to have to do it a harder way. My proposal to the list is: If anyone else needs a firewall I'll pass on any useful details I come accross, and if anyone else has any or comes accross any would they pass them on to me? First ports of call : http://www.linuxfirewall.org http://www.linux-firewall-tools.com/linux/ --Azrael (The lolly sucker) p.s. Thanks for the Geeko badge Roger :) _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.

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RE: Linux for Acorns / BETT
by marknew＠dnew.force9.co.uk 14 Jan '01

14 Jan '01

I was sure that I had seen a Linux for ARM based machines... and I had. Go to http://www.arm.uk.linux.org/ - the home page of ARM Linux. Among the machines it supports: Archimedies A5000 RiscPC RiscStation etc. (and those are the ones that I know of!) I have not tried to install this (the last time I laid eyes on an Acorn was five years ago). Looking at the installation instructions I must say that it looks complicated! By the way, RiscBSD is not Linux, it is BSD. There are differences! Mark New ----- Find me in the Edgehill College IT Department. If I'm not there, then I'm either asleep, eating or being ill. > Previous message from Malcolm Herbert > (malc(a)ngfl.gov.uk): > > hi > > you mention X servers for Acorn's, what about > Linux? and could you boot an > Acorn machine (if you had a few, like 200) as > thin clients from a > Intel-based survey? should be able to i'm sure. > seen RiscBSD, any others ? > > BETT was interesting, couple more Linux > appliances around, also Fen Systems, > a 'small' start-up offering 'middleweight' > clients (not thin). I'm running a > sweepstake for the number of academic providers > offering:- > > 1. Linux servers- > 2. Linux-based appliances > 3. Linux clients > 4. Abingdon-based companies with their own > Linux distributions :-) > > sealed bids to me by 31st January, winner gets > a copy of Red Hat 8 > > Malcolm

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X servers for Acorn
by Alan Davies 13 Jan '01

13 Jan '01

It seems to have gone very quiet on this list... I'm not sure how I missed the announcement, but Leo White has produced an EXCELLENT Xserver for Acorn which is free - I don't know if he intends it to stay free. It certainly seems better than the MIX server for PC stations. I can't see any reason to use VNC when this is available. It was a bit of a hassle make SUSE accept broadcasts for xdm (mainly because I didn't know about it) - and further problems when kdm didn't appear to work (and still doesn't) gdm works locally but not to Xserver clients - again I don't know why. -- Alan Davies Head of Computing Birkenhead School

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Proprietry formats etc.
by adrian.wells 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

<SNIP> > The other part this is an "RM recommendation" to "Upgrade Internet Browser > to Internet Explorer 5.5". > > Quite a few things about this seem very Windows centric... </SNIP> Interesting, since one of their techi big cheeses specifically told me NOT to upgrade, but stay with V4 of I.E. after asking if they thought it worthwhile upgrading. Adrian Wells

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] BETT, Happy New Year, and forthcoming meeting
by SILCOATSIT＠aol.com 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

Salisbury is a bit far from West Yorkshire, isn't there anybody in Oxfordshire or Northamptonshire who could offer a venue? John Wilson IT Officer Silcoates School

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] StarOffice
by adrian.wells 12 Jan '01

12 Jan '01

Down loaded the 80+MB onto a PC :-( installation was quick but lots of errors regarding disk space (2GB free) and DLLs that would not install. Bits of it sort of run and it's quite quick on a celleron 400. Maybe I'll try the multi-part download next time. Kind Regards Adrian Wells _______________________________________ Systems Manager Sidcot School Oakridge Lane, Winscombe, Somerset BS25 1PD. Please reply to adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk admin(a)sidcot.org.uk for general enquiries

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