On 07/04/17 08:39 PM, John Andersen wrote:
On 04/07/2017 05:17 PM, Anton Aylward wrote:
So what is the 3G "gap"? I have /usr/share a s sperate FS.
Back when the Bell Unix Systems Group
Anton, its time to move on. ;-)
How many machines do you have sharing that separate /usr/share?
I'm betting is less than 5, and 3Gig times 5 machines is still within round-off error in disk drive size these days.
You are missing the point I was making. Everything we have today is the result of decisions, decisions about architecture, made in the past. Even the concept of the way transient programs are handled by the UNIX model is in contrast to the ways that had preceded it, the 'transient program area" model that even persisted into the VAX VMS world. That we have end-user accounts under "/home? rather than "/usr" is another architectural artefact of the Unix Systems Group at Bell. These divisions are clean cut. The point I am making is that it means that they can be simple separate file systems. The point that Linda was making was that in order of the symlink from /bin to /usr/bin to be functional and usable at boot that have to be the same file system. As I pointed out, if the symlink ran in the other direction there wouldn't be that problem. If that was the case there would be no linkage between the root FS and the /usr FS, and /usr would not need to be incorporated into the initrd. What do you think Linda's special script is about? So the issue isn't that I no longer have an office where the 16 workstations share, among other things, the /usr/share on the file server. We have to live with historic decisions. We lived with the historic decision, also out of USG, to use the /etc/init.d scripts for a long while, which the BSD people chose not to. Now we are living with the architectural decision to use systemd, while other UNIX-like derivatives choose not to. The size of *MY* /usr is, as I said, less than 8G. The size of Carlos' is 32G. That's more than routing error! Why do you think that is? *I* think it is because he has made different architectural decisions from the one's I've made. My architectural decisions mean that I'm actually using near 3/44 of a Terabyte, and that's before you figure in developed applications under /srv -- all the "web" stuff. I I do bring up other machines, yes /usr/share is shared. But these days I don't use a laptop and don't use a central server, as does a friend who has 4 kids, each of who do have their own workstation running Linux (he's bring them up properly). No, my "other" machine is my Android phone. Understanding history, understanding how things came to be how they are, how the people at the time made the decisions they did in the context that existed at the time they made those decisions, is always pertinent. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org