On 06/25/2016 04:17 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
I really don't know where you get off calling a "beta" version 'stable". packagers determined that the "beta" was stable enough to include. All does not rest within a name :)
stable =/= error free Ellanios is not reporting LO/calc crashing or otherwise falling over. She is reporting a error on observed behaviour. Perhaps that's not an error to some people, but when a product does not conform to user expectations (and, as she points out does not behave like past versions or handle previously generated files the same way, something we usual associated with Microsoft Office and MS-Word in particular) I feel she has a right to complain. The whole point of pre-release, the 'release candidates', the -alpha, -beta series is to do just this, to field test, to let the users find things that aren't right that the developers missed or that were artifacts and emergent properties of other changes. The fact is that we don't know if this a problem resulting from changes in LO or an interaction with a specific version of the kernel, X11, the drivers & colour mapping or with the changes in LO. Getting details of the specific context from Ellanios, revision numbers of the software, the hardware, the drivers, the whole software stack getting to LO/calc that could affect rendering has been like pulling teeth and is still incomplete. I choose not to use 'tw', I've gone a different root. Rather than 'tw' I go for more fine control, using a number of the ":Factory" repositories. (Actually not all of them are ":Factory", Some are "home:", some are "devel:" (I used that, as you'll see in the archives, to be able to get a Ruby/Tk that didn’t crash, even though the 'distribution' one, that did crash, was marked as 'stable!) and of course there's "Kernel Stable" that I've mentioned before. Oh and "LibreOffice-5". Its not relevant to Ellanois, but I also have "KDE_Frameworks_5" and couple of repositories for stuff to do with the cloud. As Patrick says,
when requesting help, verbosity actually helps those trying to help you. Patience wears very thin when requested information is lacking
Patrick also mentioned that he, like me, gave up on the Gnomic environments and moved to KDE a long time ago, and that he, again like me, uses libreoffice-kde4 as part of the LO stack. There is also "libreoffice-gnome" for the Gnomic DE, of which xfce is one. -- A: Yes. > Q: Are you sure? >> A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. >>> Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org