jdd composed on 2016-01-04 20:47 (UTC+0100):
Felix Miata composed:
What part of what I previously wrote didn't you understand?
I missed
"The only UMS driver I'm familiar with that requires KMS be disabled is NVidia, and by now disabling KMS for it may be automatic and unneeded on the cmdline."
that represent 1/3 of the video cards of the market
1/3 of the card brands, which isn't indicative of cards in use. Relatively few machines are built with onboard nvidia gfxchips, while huge numbers are with intel, likely more than half of desktops and laptops. OTOH, no one is using intel video cards, as intel hasn't made any since last century. A secondary point I was trying to make was that those using NVidia UMS driver are a small segment of Linux users, many of whom stick to FOSS and thus use nouveau driver, and also a large majority of whom aren't using NVidia gfxchips at all.
and without nomodeset (right now), the nvidia driver crashes.
I'm surprised it loads. Or, maybe it doesn't, and that's the "crash" you experience. What does Xorg.0.log look like when nomodeset is omitted from cmdline.
It's only since some update, with the default install nomodeset was not necessary.
Or maybe it was but got missed.
may be this is a clue to the solution
Could be. Could be another visit to NVidia's installation doc is in order. Maybe it has become dependent on exactly which UMS version is being used. Maybe the kernel is being trained to disable KMS when an nvidia driver tries to load, but isn't absent bugginess yet. Maybe the place to ask is in an NVidia support forum. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org