Hi Folks, I finally took the leap and installed Leap on an old Dell Latitude D830 laptop. I normally install Ubuntu on laptops because I've historically had better luck with hardware discovery and function, such as WiFi. But I wanted to give Leap a go. I installed from a sha256-checked DVD and everything went well. The Broadcom BCM4312 WiFi system wasn't detected, but I was able to one-click install the drivers from https://software.opensuse.org/package/broadcom-wl after I hooked up wired Ethernet. All was then well and the wired Ethernet could be removed. Leap did a remarkable job of detecting everything, such as the screen brightness and audio volume function keys. The trackpad worked okay too. But it had problems with a wireless usb mouse. It just didn't detect it. It did find the little cursor stalk between the G and H keys. But it doesn't handle a remote usb keyboard either. The Logitech keyboard has backlit keys and it just sits there and flashes the backlighting on and off. Oh, Leap didn't automatically configure the sound system, I did it after the install with Yast2. But in fiddling around I found the trackpad option to disable the trackpad when an external mouse is detected. This is cool, so I gave it a try. I was worried a bit about loosing the trackpad, but it's a new install and can quickly be redone. Well, I was right! The trackpad and its buttons were disabled, but the usb mouse was still undetected. The cursor stalk still worked, so I think Leap assumed the stalk was an external mouse. Alas, there are no buttons associated with the stalk, so I lost all mouse button capability. This makes it really hard to do anything! No problem, I say, I'll just login as root, remove my first default user, then recreate and loose the trackpad disablement. But, there's no way to login as root!!! No problem, I say, I'll just boot into bash by adding init=/bin/bash on the Grub "linux" line. Great, that works and I've got a command prompt. But, the shell seemed to be running as an unpriviledged user! It would say "/usr/sbin/userdel appears to require root authorization, which you don't have", or some-such. It wouldn't let me do anything that required root authorization! I've didn't try to boot into "single-user" because of bad experiences I've had with a certain initialization system. No problem, I say, I'll just login to IceWM with the default userid, become root, and create a new user without the bad trackpad juju. That worked, and I created a new user using useradd. But then, when I login I get the nice Leap light-bulb screen, but then I get a black screen with only the cursor showing. The cursor moves by the trackpad though. No problem, I say, I'll just use yast2 to create the user, that will surely work. Alas, no, the black-screened new user remains after being removed and re-created. So at this point, the laptop has only one user which can use only IceWM. What did I do wrong? Is it time to re-install from scratch? Will I be able to create new Plasma5 users? Regards, Lew -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org