On 2014-10-28 03:50, Anton Aylward wrote:
Now if the X won't start it may be for a couple of reasons. You hint at library problems but fail to say what the exact error messages were.
Because he has started to change things all over the place like mad.
But as Carlos points out, running startx or xinit is going to be problematic UNLESS you are specifically debugging X such as I was when porting to new hardware. If you had done as Carlos said then you would have bypassed some of the problems.
It is plain simple: startx is deprecated and not really supported. I'm not saying I agree with this, only that is is this way. And it is not a recent issue. There are several things that break with startx, like for instance, sound or automounting sticks. It is possible to work around most of the issues, and some people do. I do sometimes. And the first item is making "/usr/bin/Xorg" suid, and this at least is prominently documented. He even listed the file where it is documented exactly what single line to change in the configuration. That's all that was needed, a single line changed.
So far, none of what you've reported seems to be a systemd problem. It seem that among the systemd haters, everything gets blamed on system regardless of the real cause.
And I'm not walking that useless war path again. I do not want to be part of this thread. I'm sorry that I replied to his OP. :-( -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)