On 08/19/2014 10:59 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2014-08-19 16:46, Anton Aylward wrote:
On 08/19/2014 09:51 AM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
I have postfix and by fetchmail handing to postfix I get *all* mail logged in /var/log/mail, ie: not just fetchmail's and procmail's logs.
It was a *conscious* decision :^).
Same here.
And other reasons, like learning to use postfix, which I use for sending, too, and to add other things like amavis.
Yes, did all that. But like James, Rogers imposes a restriction. I can't run a server, web or SMTP. Rogrs is my cable ISP provider. They supply the model and give out a DHCP address. Yes I know out things like DynDNS. They also perform scans and if they find a listening SMTP or http server they send a notice asking you to remove it OR ELSE YOUR SERVICE WILL BE TERMINATED ! ! ! So there's not much point me running a SMTP listener. Like James I get all my mail from mailboxes, either at Rogers or at a domain I own or ... Elsewhere.
might contain. My POV is 'why keep logs unless you are inspecting them?'.
Because when there is a problem, and they come, eventually, I want to find out why, later.
So, since you are not continuously watching your logs, you have some other way of noticing that there is a problem that has nothing to do with the logs.
I also keep procmail logs...
...which are parsed by an application I wrote which then displays how many new posts I have, and on which folders.
I have that done within Thunderbird. They used to have it anyway, then removed it, but there's a plugin ...
It doesn't waste any of my time to just "have logs". Just some disk space.
And disk space is cheap. But if you never read the logs ... Back to my point about 'artificial ignorance'. The killer with logs is the volume you have to wade though. The 'disk space is cheap' philosophy actually makes the job harder since there is the temptation to 'log everything'. The wonderful thing about syslog is that I turn up the sensitivity and only get WARNING or higher. Actually most of the time I can like with ERROR or higher. -- /"\ \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML Mail / \ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org