On 2014-06-04 08:39, Daniel Bauer wrote:
Am 04.06.2014 04:22, schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Do I understand correct?:
- the systemd log is in /run/log/journal and therefor is gone when rebooting
Yes, absolutely.
- my "normal" logs are in /var/log/ and contain the same information as the systemd logs, but stay saved, separated and rotated (with my standard setup in regard of logs)
Yes, absolutely.
- I don't have to care about the systemd log, because I can still find all I need to know in /var/log/
?
Mostly, yes. You can ignore its existence. But when you investigate an issue with a service, if you use "systemctl" it queries the systemd native journal, obviously. And you can query that database yourself, of course. It has interesting features. Or, you can peruse instead the traditional sylog text logs, they are there in place. You can also set systemd to keep persistent logs, if you wish. And you can, I think, not sure, that you can remove syslog. I think that the current openSUSE defaults, or at least what I have on all my machines, is: persistent traditional syslog, and volatile systemd journal. One proposal was/is to have only volatile systemd journal, for desktop machines, by default. Many say it would be a mistake, because helpers here in mail list and forums, ie, people doing remote support without machine access, would have it very difficult to ask people questions about their logs to find out the cause for the issues they reportm (because the get erased on reboot). And, a persistent systemd journal would be very difficult to analyze off-line, if the affected machine doesn't run. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)