On Monday 25 June 2012 03:23:42 j debert wrote:
Oh. Yet another productivity tool that not everyone knows about with a misleading description.
Correct, except I don't know that it's misleading. I understood what it meant when I read it. But it's not a keylogger, it's not spyware, it's not a virus. It is a data collating tool that its developers feel will improve users' productivity
Zeitgeist makes it's collected data available via D-bus. Where any D-bus app can use it. What access controls exist for D-bus?
policy-kit. Login authentication. Really, your whole damn system is governed by dbus. If there is a problem with it, you have far greater things to worry about than zeitgeist. If dbus security were broken, you have no privacy at all anymore
Who decides which apps can or can not get that info?
"All other applications"? Really? Like, say, elm, gpg and vi?
Per already answered this. To repeat, yes, even they
Really? "If"?
YAST says zeitgeist is to be installed. Period. Nothing else about it. That's really enabling informed decisions, isn't it?
No, and if that were true it would be bad. Luckily it's not. Admittedly the description isn't the most detailed in the world, but there is more than just the name. There is also a link to the project page which has a lot more information https://launchpad.net/zeitgeist In case you're interested. I just got it from the YaST package information.
How often do you inspect every one of the thousands of files to be installed? Every single one every single time, I'm sure. Simply *everyone* does that.
When I install a package, I get a popup that tells me that in addition to the package I selected manually, some other packages were automatically selected. I look at that list, yes. You are free to ignore that list, to say that it's too much for you, but kindly stop saying it's not there Please note that I'm not defending zeitgeist here. I said before I don't find it especially useful. I'm just defending sanity against uninformed ramblings, like saying YaST doesn't tell you what it installs, that a data collating tool isn't a keylogger, that things happen hidden in the background even though the whole damn thing is open source. Criticize if you want. Suggest that it be removed. But stay sane Anders Anders -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse+owner@opensuse.org