On Tuesday 05 October 2010 01:29:44 Bob Rea wrote:
On Mon October 4 2010 03:46:27 Will Stephenson wrote:
On Monday 04 October 2010 06:59:49 David C. Rankin wrote:
On 10/03/2010 04:24 PM, Bob Rea wrote:
then it had trouble starting but finally got to kde login, now won't accept my password. What can I do about that?
Can't upgrade til I have working dvd or cd drive, which was the point of the exercise.
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Bob, (1) can you login as your normal user at a text console?
yes
(2) Can you login as a different user?
root, yes, console and kde
Sorry, I didn't make it clear that "a different user" implies a non-privileged user, i.e. not root but not your normal user. This is to exclude a configuration issue. Also, what happens if you try to login to a different window manager, eg IceWM (use the Session Type menu at the login screen)?
(3) What does the login screen actually say - 'Incorrect password'?
no, I enter my password and it redisplays the login screen
Sounds like the X server or KDE crashed on login rather than a password problem. This could be due to mismatched KDE libraries, a full disk, or buggy video drivers. Could you (as well as the system log already asked for) login as the problematic user to a text console and do WINDOWMANAGER=`which startkde` startx -- :1 | tee startkde.log ("Using KDE as your window manager, start an X session on display :1 and save the resulting output to startkde.log') Then attach the end of the log to your next mail (tail -n 100 startkde.log > startkde_end.log) and the end of /var/log/XOrg.0.log too.
If not (1), can you login as root, and look at the end of /var/log/messages for messages from login. This will tell you why login was rejected, eg:
" Oct 4 09:40:23 bigbox login[3692]: FAILED LOGIN 1 FROM /dev/tty3 FOR will, Authentication failure "
If it's a PAM problem (unlikely in a vanilla setup given that you just changed cabling) it will be logged here. Let us know the relevant log messages and we can try and get to the bottom of what's changed on your system.
I will take a look. but I thought I would lay out answers to your question. not a good log reader somewhere there must be a complete newby's guide to how to read logs and understand what you read
You'll get better. System logs like /var/log/messages combine log messages from many system processes, so it would be hard to be complete here. We're only interested in the lines from login here. Will -- Will Stephenson, openSUSE Team SUSE LINUX Products GmbH - Nürnberg - AG Nürnberg - HRB 16746 - GF: Markus Rex -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org