Guys, For those that don't know there have been several groups that have looked at the logistics of centralizing, for lack of better words, a location for handling changes to libraries, build tools, etc. that effect kde3 in order to allow kde3 to be maintained in a sane manner and prevent the wheel from being reinvented 1000 times over distro-by-distro. Of course implementation will always be distro specific, but the goal is to coordinate/handle the changes that impact the desktop at what was the kde.org level with the combined input and resources from all those who have an interest in seeing the desktop continue so it is done in an efficient way. Aside from the great work the guys here at openSuSE have done, another of the more notable efforts has been the Trinity project headed by Timothy Pearson (pearsoncomputing.net). The chakra project has been another player as well. I have been in contact with Pearson and the people at Chakra over the past few days. What I expect to take place in the next day or two is the expansion of a mailing list where we want to gather as much talent as possible to help contribute to solving the challenges that are bound to arise in the future as well as solving some of the current limitation with kde3 dcop/dbus, etc.. Much of this has been kicked around for some time, but in the past 36 hours, through coincidence or reason unexplained, there have been a number of kde3 folks brought into this discussion so let's make hay while the sun shine for the benefit of openSuSE and the rest of the OSS community. If you are interested, what you need to do is drop by http://chakra-project.org/bbs/viewtopic.php?pid=20476#p20476 (that is just where the current active thread is - the rest is just a flurry of emails, etc..) Details concerning the mailing list, if not posted there yet, should be posted there within the next 24 hours. What I would like to see happen is those with interest join the mailing list, especially you prior kde3 devs. (I know you are up to your eyelids in KDE4 right now, but if you only write one sentence that saves the rest of us a months worth of wastes effort you have done more than you could ever imagine -- Will, Sven...) Lord knows it will be a low-volume list requiring little input. The goal is to help those spearheading this project manage what whatever the pressing needs may be to make sure when a Linux user sits down to install a desktop on a Linux box they have the choice to install IceWM, blackbox, fluxbox, e-16, enlightenment, openbox, kde3, kde4, WindowMaker, xfce, twm, etc.. If you are one of those that believe that Linux users ought to be able to have a choice to install kde3 in the future, then we need you on the mailing list. See you there. -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org