Guys, In nearly all my other desktops (fluxbox, e16, e17, icewm, etc..) I have always started the gnome-settings-daemon independently as one of the startup programs for each of the desktops. It provides the gnome-screensaver and makes all the gtk apps look right. To my surprise, you can't do that anymore in 11.3 -- Why Not?? When I start gsd, a process is registered in the process table because I can see it with ps ax, but it doesn't do anything it is supposed to. GTK apps all look pitiful and no screensaver, no nada... So what gives? Is it a bug? Is it somebody's great idea at an 'improvement'? What? This is repeatable for me every time. Just open some other desktop, enlightenment, fluxbox, whatever and then as a user run: /usr/lib/gnome-settings-daemon/gnome-settings-daemon & then go check that it is running with ps ax, then look to see if it is working and whether it has started the gnome-screensaver, etc.. On my box it doesn't do anything. What's up with that?? -- David C. Rankin, J.D.,P.E. Rankin Law Firm, PLLC 510 Ochiltree Street Nacogdoches, Texas 75961 Telephone: (936) 715-9333 Facsimile: (936) 715-9339 www.rankinlawfirm.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse+help@opensuse.org